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I bought one of these to stick in my bug-out bag but after a few trips to the range i'm having second thoughts. I've tried a few different brands of ammo with similar results..If your gonna have to "survive" using this rifle you better have a lot of ammo, cause your gonna miss a lot and go hungry more often than not.
I forget who made the original, and i had one many years ago, and treated it like a toy and eventually traded it, but that one shot better than this one..

anybody have any tips on making this thing perform a little better?
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In my experience, the Marlin Papoose is a better take down .22. The sights are on the barrel and I can loosen the barrel nut 1/4 turn with no loss of accuracy. I don't intentionally shoot it loose, but experimented with a slightly loose barrel.
My Papoose is 10 times better than my AR7 ever thought of being
The henry ar7 is accurate once you buy a metal barrel for it. The original barrel is sleeved plastic junk. I can only assume henry did this so it will float when put away inside tge stock. I bought a barrel from I believe ar-7.com and it turned it into a repectable squirrel gun. You can get threaded barrels for them to. A suppressed ar7 would be pretty cool
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In my experience, the Marlin Papoose is a better take down .22. The sights are on the barrel and I can loosen the barrel nut 1/4 turn with no loss of accuracy. I don't intentionally shoot it loose, but experimented with a slightly loose barrel.
I agree owning both rifles my papoose although it's a Remington production is a far superior rifle.
The henry ar7 is accurate once you buy a metal barrel for it. The original barrel is sleeved plastic junk. I can only assume henry did this so it will float when put away inside tge stock. I bought a barrel from I believe ar-7.com and it turned it into a repectable squirrel gun. You can get threaded barrels for them to. A suppressed ar7 would be pretty cool

i agree!!!

i dont remember having issues with the original barrel, but i swapped in threaded steel barrel from ar7.com and shoot suppressed all the time.. aside from suppressor POI shift, which is predicable, i am accurate out to about 25-30 yds.. not because the rifle cant, astigmatism is a b*tch with peep sights!!!

i have pics of a doe taken with a head shot in 2007 with my Henry survival, first shot whizzed by her head at a close 15-17 meters, but she didnt run far, and if any hunter knows, you cant get THAT close to a doe, this was a fluke, the second shot was taken at about 30 meters and she went down instantly


hmmm.. 16 yrs ago.. time flies
Fifty two years ago I bought a Armalite AR7. I knew right away I could shoot better than the rifle. Sold it soon after. I now have Ruger take down. Pulled it out of the safe last week on a very windy day. I was going shooting with the other geezers and didn't want to waste good ammo with the BR gun. Because of the conditions I set up at 25 yards. Holy smokes, under pretty crappy conditions it was pushing one inch groups. I really have to ammo test this thing on a calm day.

I hope the post's of poor grouping on the other Henry rifles are the exception. I'd like a pump.
Try sending it back to Henry. Henry's quality control has been very bad for the last few years.
I've heard this quite a few times over the last 2-3 years. Shame as they used to be one of the better ones.

I have a Henry Survival that I bought new about 6 or 7 years ago. It shoots great, feeds anything and plenty accurate enough for me.
I bought a 'lightly used' Armalite AR-7 two years ago and after cleaning the action of old grease found it had a 'cycling problem'- not always re-setting the trigger. I determined that the issue was with the 'hammer spring', as several online info sources all said to 'cross the legs' before putting on the trigger-pin. I re-installed w/o 'crossing' and now it works fine. I lubed the action & recoil spring lightly with PTFE grease and 'dri-silicone' spray on the bolt. I also cut 2-coils off the recoil springs, which helps cycling. Accuracy at 25 yds is ca. 1-2" w-RemGolden, good enuf for peep sight only.
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I have a Charter Arms Ar7 bought in the early 80's I would guess. Back in those days Ramline made hi-cap mags for them and there were all kinds of stocks and accessories for them. The CA has an alumunum barrel with a steel bore.

I put a collapsible stock on it with a shrouded barrel. I wanted to make it into the most compact, packable, survival rifle possible. The stock on these things is pretty bulky.



I cut the shroud off and found the barrel to be plastic with a steel bore. It was lighter than the factory CA bbl.

I eventually took the pistol grip off which made it less bulky and lighter



The whole thing was about 2 lbs and 16" long when broken down and held together with ranger bands (bike inner tube bands)

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I understand the reasoning for a Bug Out Bag, and I have one for my wife and myself, but I want something in a survival rifle larger than .22RF. I want it to be collapsible to fit in an easily removed from our bags (backpacks). I have looked at several brands and styles and have settled on two different ones manufactured by KelTec. Mine is the SU-16 in .223. Th scope in the picture is no linger on the gun and has been replaced by a lower profile Red Dot Sight. I have larger AR Magazines, but I like that two 10 round mags can be stored in the stock. I have over 500 rounds through this gun and it is reliable and accurate. I also carry my Browning Buck Mark Target semi-auto in .22 for small work.

and folded.


My wife prefers the KelTec Sub 2000 in 9mm and she is dangerously accurate with it. This version uses the Glock 17 mags and they work perfectly. She carries my KelTec P11 as a sidearm.

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I'm frankly surprised that Henry never made the Ar7 into something more conventional. Not everyone wants a floating survival rifle that takes down into a bulky stock. A more conventional stock would appeal to a wider market including a youth market. The action and barrel are pretty small and light, would make a good youth rifle.

Here's one in a random plastic stock


And one in a kinda cool M1 carbine stock


And one is a Crossman airgun stock


I think Henry is really missing the boat by not having different variations
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I understand the reasoning for a Bug Out Bag, and I have one for my wife and myself, but I want something in a survival rifle larger than .22RF. I want it to be collapsible to fit in an easily removed from our bags (backpacks). I have looked at several brands and styles and have settled on two different ones manufactured by KelTec. Mine is the SU-16 in .223. Th scope in the picture is no linger on the gun and has been replaced by a lower profile Red Dot Sight. I have larger AR Magazines, but I like that two 10 round mags can be stored in the stock. I have over 500 rounds through this gun and it is reliable and accurate. I also carry my Browning Buck Mark Target semi-auto in .22 for small work.
Not sure if you are aware but a 30 round AR mag will fit in the stock where the 10 rounders go. It is a tight fit so I put a zip tie around the mag to make it easier to pull out.

Shown with a cheap nylon buttstock pouch that holds an additional 20 rnd mag and a cleaning kit.



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@Tex45acp . I'm not real familiar with the keltec lineup, but my thoughts are as to why your wife carries a pistol and a rifle(pistol caliber and mag) that both take different mags.
Just seems more prudent to me(my great escape) that both for logistics and ease of use that they both use the same.

Now having said that, my personal favorite "survival" gun is a savage 24. 223 over 20ga.

But then, I have 5 bugout bags. 3 have 10-22 takedowns. One has a Glock, and one doesn't carry, cause I don't see the need for it in my pickup. I keep one bag at the back door. One in the pickup. One in my locker at work and two out in the country. My bags aren't for end of the world or society as we know it. I keep them in case a storm comes through and a tornado makes it so I don't have a house to come home to. I've got enough stuff to get by for a couple days if I actually ever have to.
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Many yeas ago I had one of those original AR7s with cheezy hollow stock, sold it for almost nothing because i considered it garbage and could not bring myself to tell a buyer it was worth much of anything. Groups were about 2 feet at 25 feet. Many years later I bought a Henry “yellow boy” in .22lr for practice for shooting a full size Henry rifle reproduction in competition. Same deal-worthless due to huge groups. Now I see the new Henry company has apparently bought the AR patent, no surprise there. I see someone has had a different experience but I can only say about mine.

This brings up a good question, what is a good bug out gun, or guns? I say start with a .357 mag revolver for defense in urban situations, bear, Mtn lions, etc. For food in a wilderness situation, some sort of light folding .22 rifle, but I am not aware of one being made with even decent accuracy. Maybe a cut-down 10/22 semi auto with some sort of home-made folding stock similar to an m-1 carbine? Or, is there such a thing i am not aware of?
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I have a very nice, discreet set up that goes unnoticed everywhere I go.
KelTec Sub2000, 4 Glock 17 mags, 1 Glock 33 rd maag, 100 rds ammo fills all the mags. QD sling with mash hooks, Firearm light with strobe, Vortex red dot on QD mount. fits in a BOYT Unmarked Plain case I added internal straps too. What's not to like!!

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Not sure if you are aware but a 30 round AR mag will fit in the stock where the 10 rounders go. It is a tight fit so I put a zip tie around the mag to make it easier to pull out.

Shown with a cheap nylon buttstock pouch that holds an additional 20 rnd mag and a cleaning kit.



Yes Sir I was able to get a P-Mag to fit in there, but that was after I took the picture of the gun.
@Tex45acp . I'm not real familiar with the keltec lineup, but my thoughts are as to why your wife carries a pistol and a rifle(pistol caliber and mag) that both take different mags.
Just seems more prudent to me(my great escape) that both for logistics and ease of use that they both use the same.

Now having said that, my personal favorite "survival" gun is a savage 24. 223 over 20ga.

But then, I have 5 bugout bags. 3 have 10-22 takedowns. One has a Glock, and one doesn't carry, cause I don't see the need for it in my pickup. I keep one bag at the back door. One in the pickup. One in my locker at work and two out in the country. My bags aren't for end of the world or society as we know it. I keep them in case a storm comes through and a tornado makes it so I don't have a house to come home to. I've got enough stuff to get by for a couple days if I actually ever have to.
Yes sir I even tried to get her to shoot and fall in love the Glock 17.......it almost ended up in a divorce. She loves the P11. She has a belt that she can carry several mags for the Sub-2000 and the P11 as well.
Yes sir I even tried to get her to shoot and fall in love the Glock 17.......it almost ended up in a divorce. She loves the P11. She has a belt that she can carry several mags for the Sub-2000 and the P11 as well.
Well if there is one thing I know about women , it's that she knows what she wants. And also gets a little ticked when us guys don't know.
I bought one of these to stick in my bug-out bag but after a few trips to the range i'm having second thoughts. I've tried a few different brands of ammo with similar results..If your gonna have to "survive" using this rifle you better have a lot of ammo, cause your gonna miss a lot and go hungry more often than not.
I forget who made the original, and i had one many years ago, and treated it like a toy and eventually traded it, but that one shot better than this one..

anybody have any tips on making this thing perform a little better?
Sell or give it away and buy something else.
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