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PLEASE read these rules THOROUGHLY before submitting a target to this thread, especially if it is in the top 10 - pay special attention to the instructions listed below in red.
I will run the game on the HONOR SYSTEM. No targets need to be sent in or judged.
You will be measuring your own targets, using a CALIPER or OnTarget Software. Please, no rulers.
IF YOU THINK YOUR TARGET IS IN THE TOP 10, It MUST be measured by one of our Volunteer Target Meisters- details below.
It is up to you to follow the rules.
If you think someone has measured improperly, PM ME- do not call out members in open forum. I will deal with any disputes discretely and as fairly as I can.
The leaderboard will also feature each shooters average group size, listed by rank. Please remember that THIS IS A GAME, I'm only including groups sizes so we can all see what's possible and how we stack up. That way members who want to should FEEL FREE to shoot the challenge AGAIN with the same rifle or with more than one rig and improve their score. I will be glad to update your score- please REMEMBER to send me a PM when you post a target to notify me of your accomplishment so I can update the leader board accordingly.
RULES
Rifle---Any form of 10-22 or variant thereof
Optics---Anything from Irons to Scopes
Ammo---Anything you are willing to spend money on
Rests---Two Piece rests, Bipods, Bags. No one piece or return to battery rests.
Posting Targets:
Post a CLEAR picture of your target INCLUDING 3- and 4- GROUP AVG WRITTEN LEGIBLY ON THE TARGET, and send me a PM with a link to the post to notify me of the entry.
TAKE A PIC OF YOUR RIFLE ON THE REST/BIPOD/BAGS THAT YOU SHOT FROM.
SCORING-
SIZERS-Shoot four sizers ON your submitted target. Measure them and calculate the average. Write the average clearly on your submitted target.
GROUPS- Shoot FOUR GROUPS, FIVE SHOTS per GROUP . Measure them at the widest point and write the Raw group size next to each. Subtract your average sizer measurement from the raw group size to get your FINAL group size. Write it next to each group.
CALCULATE THE AVERAGE GROUP SIZE FOR YOUR BEST THREE GROUPS AND ALL FOUR GROUPS AND WRITE THEM ON THE TARGET OR INCLUDE THEM IN YOUR POST
THREE OUT OF FOUR OF YOUR 5 SHOT GROUPS MUST BE UNDER .500" TO MAKE THE LIST
ALL TARGETS THAT ARE IN THE TOP 10 NEED TO BE MEASURED USING ONTarget SOFTWARE BY THE SHOOTER OR ONE OF OUR RESIDENT TARGET MEISTERS LISTED BELOW.
IF YOU HAVE MEASURED YOUR TARGET AND THINK YOU'RE IN THE TOP TEN, SUBMIT THE TARGET FOR MEASUREMENT TO ONE OF THE TARGET MEISTERS.
***YOUR FINAL SCORE WILL BE AVERAGE OF YOUR MEASUREMENTS AND THE OnTarget RESULT OF THE TM.
PLEASE follow the instructions below when sending a scanned copy or JPEG of your target to the Target Meisters.
If your target does make the top 10, please send it to me in a PM and post it in this thread with your caliper or On Target measurements including three - and four - group averages.
Please remember these are neutral third-party volunteers who give their time freely and be patient with them while they measure.
When sending targets to the Target Meisters for measurement please;
1. Send the targets by email not by PM. Email address should be in our profiles.
2. Include either a scan of the target or a .jpg file of the target. The same .jpg used to upload to photobucket or whatever service is used.
This makes it much easier for us to measure and then return the results to the shooter.
TARGETS: ALL TARGETS FOR THE GAMES MUST BE SHOT ON ONE OF THE FOUR TARGETS IN THE FREE DOWNLOAD LINKS BELOW. ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS WILL BE MADE!!!
Username= DrGunner Password= RFCtarget
TARGETS FOR THE MOA GAMES: 1/4" at 25 Yards, 1/2" at 50 yards, and Holy Grail- 1" at 100 Yards
Stealth's 22 Challenge Has 4 boxes with crosshair and red bullseye, as well as four separate boxes for sizing shots, with data underneath. This target is used for MOA games and shooting groups, created by member Stealth01- my gratitude to him!
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK:
LINK: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/5216164/sent-to-myself-201
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
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Target with Data, supplied by VINCENT created by member Komi Has 4 crosshair targets with 3/8" white bullseye, as well as four separate small crosshair targets for sizing shots, with data underneath. This target is used for MOA games and shooting groups.
It is my favorite for the 1/4" and 1/2" MOA games, due to its simplicity.
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK:
LINK: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/5198082/sent-to-myself-201
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
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OnTarget with Data, Thin Crosshairs: created by TargetMeister Bill40718, with standardized measurements specifically designed for accurate measurement of 5 shot groups using OnTarget. This thin crosshair version works best for 25- and 50 yards. The stepped crosshairs on the horizontal and vertical serve as aim points for shooting groups in a quadrant, allowing for clean measurement away from the bullseye.
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK
LINK:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/674...sshairs-ricochet-modified-thin-crosshairs-pdf
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
OnTarget with Data, Thick Crosshairs:OnTarget with Data, Thin Crosshairs:[/COLOR][/SIZE] created by TargetMeister Bill40718, with standardized measurements specifically designed for accurate measurement of 5 shot groups using OnTarget. This thick crosshair version works best for 100 yards. The stepped crosshairs on the horizontal and vertical lines serve as aim points for shooting groups in a quadrant, allowing for clean measurement away from the bullseye.
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK
LINK:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/674...shairs-ricochet-modified-thick-crosshairs-pdf
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
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Click on these usernames to link to our Target Meisters profiles to send a Target via PM, or email them directly:
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Jesse aka Slimjd33's Member Profile
Slimjd33's email: [email protected]
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Kent aka rokehe's Member Profile
rokehe's email: [email protected]
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Elijah aka layer3guru's Member Profile
layer3guru's email: [email protected]
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Dave aka 10ring1's Member Profile
10ring1's email: [email protected] [/SIZE]
MEASURING GROUPS, SIZERS & RAW vs FINAL GROUPS
Measuring Groups
The raw group size is the overall size of the group measured from outside edge to outside edge. What I have found to be the best and most consistent way to measure a raw group is to measure the outside edge of the bullet smudge on the paper from the widest point of the group using a caliper, placing the group deep within the flat part of the jaws of the caliper.
Sizers are used to calculate the final group size. What you're doing essentially is subtracting the size of one bullet with from the raw group size in order to end up with a final group size, Which reflects the center of POI for the two bullets that are farthest apart in the group. In order to calculate an average sizer, you shoot four separate sizers on a different area of the target from your groups. Measure the sizers in the same fashion as the groups - outside edge of the smudge outside edge of the smudge. Most sizers are around .210 - .215 inch.
Add up the four measured sizers and divide by four to get an average. Then you subtract that value from each of the raw group sizes to get a final group size for each of your groups. Just remember that the smudge represents the outer edge of the contact area of the actual bullet, and we are trying to calculate the group size from point of impact to point of impact. Subtracting a sizer results in removing 50% of the average width of a bullet from each side of the widest part of the groups, giving you the center of POI for the widest part of the group.
Because ammo and paper varies in the marks left on paper, doing it this way ensures that we are taking into account the way that your particular combination of rifle/ammo/paper is factored in by using your sizers. Because we are measuring the smudge, shooting a few fouling shots in order to dirty the bore helps a lot because subsequent bullets will print a better/more distinct mark on paper that is easier to read and see.
One good practice to help you understand why we are measuring the outside edge of the smudge is to plug a target - In particular, a sizer. Take a live unfired round and push it slowly into a sizer hole up to the base of the bullet just before it contacts the casing. You will see that the width of the hole made by the bullet is actually larger than you would expect based on the hole in the paper. The smudge left behind by the passing bullet provides a reasonably accurate estimation of the actual size of the hole, especially when averaged across four separate sizers.
MEASURING SOFTWARE
Use of computer-generated measuring software such as OnTarget is encouraged. I do request, however that you post two copies of your target, one with the digitally rendered measuring data and bullet circles and one in it's digitally unaltered/pure form so that we can look at the target without the electronically generated clutter.
I also ask that you type out the group sizes, sizer average, and average of three - and four - groups in your post because reading them off of the computer generated images is sometimes very difficult.
PLEASE remember we are here to have fun and challenge ourselves.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!
DrGunner
I will run the game on the HONOR SYSTEM. No targets need to be sent in or judged.
You will be measuring your own targets, using a CALIPER or OnTarget Software. Please, no rulers.
IF YOU THINK YOUR TARGET IS IN THE TOP 10, It MUST be measured by one of our Volunteer Target Meisters- details below.
It is up to you to follow the rules.
If you think someone has measured improperly, PM ME- do not call out members in open forum. I will deal with any disputes discretely and as fairly as I can.
The leaderboard will also feature each shooters average group size, listed by rank. Please remember that THIS IS A GAME, I'm only including groups sizes so we can all see what's possible and how we stack up. That way members who want to should FEEL FREE to shoot the challenge AGAIN with the same rifle or with more than one rig and improve their score. I will be glad to update your score- please REMEMBER to send me a PM when you post a target to notify me of your accomplishment so I can update the leader board accordingly.
RULES
Rifle---Any form of 10-22 or variant thereof
Optics---Anything from Irons to Scopes
Ammo---Anything you are willing to spend money on
Rests---Two Piece rests, Bipods, Bags. No one piece or return to battery rests.
Posting Targets:
Post a CLEAR picture of your target INCLUDING 3- and 4- GROUP AVG WRITTEN LEGIBLY ON THE TARGET, and send me a PM with a link to the post to notify me of the entry.
TAKE A PIC OF YOUR RIFLE ON THE REST/BIPOD/BAGS THAT YOU SHOT FROM.
SCORING-
SIZERS-Shoot four sizers ON your submitted target. Measure them and calculate the average. Write the average clearly on your submitted target.
GROUPS- Shoot FOUR GROUPS, FIVE SHOTS per GROUP . Measure them at the widest point and write the Raw group size next to each. Subtract your average sizer measurement from the raw group size to get your FINAL group size. Write it next to each group.
CALCULATE THE AVERAGE GROUP SIZE FOR YOUR BEST THREE GROUPS AND ALL FOUR GROUPS AND WRITE THEM ON THE TARGET OR INCLUDE THEM IN YOUR POST
THREE OUT OF FOUR OF YOUR 5 SHOT GROUPS MUST BE UNDER .500" TO MAKE THE LIST
ALL TARGETS THAT ARE IN THE TOP 10 NEED TO BE MEASURED USING ONTarget SOFTWARE BY THE SHOOTER OR ONE OF OUR RESIDENT TARGET MEISTERS LISTED BELOW.
IF YOU HAVE MEASURED YOUR TARGET AND THINK YOU'RE IN THE TOP TEN, SUBMIT THE TARGET FOR MEASUREMENT TO ONE OF THE TARGET MEISTERS.
***YOUR FINAL SCORE WILL BE AVERAGE OF YOUR MEASUREMENTS AND THE OnTarget RESULT OF THE TM.
PLEASE follow the instructions below when sending a scanned copy or JPEG of your target to the Target Meisters.
If your target does make the top 10, please send it to me in a PM and post it in this thread with your caliper or On Target measurements including three - and four - group averages.
Please remember these are neutral third-party volunteers who give their time freely and be patient with them while they measure.
When sending targets to the Target Meisters for measurement please;
1. Send the targets by email not by PM. Email address should be in our profiles.
2. Include either a scan of the target or a .jpg file of the target. The same .jpg used to upload to photobucket or whatever service is used.
This makes it much easier for us to measure and then return the results to the shooter.
TARGETS: ALL TARGETS FOR THE GAMES MUST BE SHOT ON ONE OF THE FOUR TARGETS IN THE FREE DOWNLOAD LINKS BELOW. ABSOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS WILL BE MADE!!!
Username= DrGunner Password= RFCtarget
TARGETS FOR THE MOA GAMES: 1/4" at 25 Yards, 1/2" at 50 yards, and Holy Grail- 1" at 100 Yards
Stealth's 22 Challenge Has 4 boxes with crosshair and red bullseye, as well as four separate boxes for sizing shots, with data underneath. This target is used for MOA games and shooting groups, created by member Stealth01- my gratitude to him!
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK:
LINK: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/5216164/sent-to-myself-201
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
Target with Data, supplied by VINCENT created by member Komi Has 4 crosshair targets with 3/8" white bullseye, as well as four separate small crosshair targets for sizing shots, with data underneath. This target is used for MOA games and shooting groups.
It is my favorite for the 1/4" and 1/2" MOA games, due to its simplicity.
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK:
LINK: http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/5198082/sent-to-myself-201
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
OnTarget with Data, Thin Crosshairs: created by TargetMeister Bill40718, with standardized measurements specifically designed for accurate measurement of 5 shot groups using OnTarget. This thin crosshair version works best for 25- and 50 yards. The stepped crosshairs on the horizontal and vertical serve as aim points for shooting groups in a quadrant, allowing for clean measurement away from the bullseye.
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK
LINK:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/674...sshairs-ricochet-modified-thin-crosshairs-pdf
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
OnTarget with Data, Thick Crosshairs:OnTarget with Data, Thin Crosshairs:[/COLOR][/SIZE] created by TargetMeister Bill40718, with standardized measurements specifically designed for accurate measurement of 5 shot groups using OnTarget. This thick crosshair version works best for 100 yards. The stepped crosshairs on the horizontal and vertical lines serve as aim points for shooting groups in a quadrant, allowing for clean measurement away from the bullseye.
TARGET DOWNLOAD LINK
LINK:http://www.keepandshare.com/doc/674...shairs-ricochet-modified-thick-crosshairs-pdf
Username= DrGunner
Password= RFCtarget
Below is a SAMPLE ONLY, follow the link above to DOWNLOAD the PDF for the OFFICIAL SIZED TARGET :
Click on these usernames to link to our Target Meisters profiles to send a Target via PM, or email them directly:
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Jesse aka Slimjd33's Member Profile
Slimjd33's email: [email protected]
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Kent aka rokehe's Member Profile
rokehe's email: [email protected]
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Elijah aka layer3guru's Member Profile
layer3guru's email: [email protected]
Click HERE to link to TargetMeister Dave aka 10ring1's Member Profile
10ring1's email: [email protected] [/SIZE]
MEASURING GROUPS, SIZERS & RAW vs FINAL GROUPS
Measuring Groups
The raw group size is the overall size of the group measured from outside edge to outside edge. What I have found to be the best and most consistent way to measure a raw group is to measure the outside edge of the bullet smudge on the paper from the widest point of the group using a caliper, placing the group deep within the flat part of the jaws of the caliper.
Sizers are used to calculate the final group size. What you're doing essentially is subtracting the size of one bullet with from the raw group size in order to end up with a final group size, Which reflects the center of POI for the two bullets that are farthest apart in the group. In order to calculate an average sizer, you shoot four separate sizers on a different area of the target from your groups. Measure the sizers in the same fashion as the groups - outside edge of the smudge outside edge of the smudge. Most sizers are around .210 - .215 inch.
Add up the four measured sizers and divide by four to get an average. Then you subtract that value from each of the raw group sizes to get a final group size for each of your groups. Just remember that the smudge represents the outer edge of the contact area of the actual bullet, and we are trying to calculate the group size from point of impact to point of impact. Subtracting a sizer results in removing 50% of the average width of a bullet from each side of the widest part of the groups, giving you the center of POI for the widest part of the group.
Because ammo and paper varies in the marks left on paper, doing it this way ensures that we are taking into account the way that your particular combination of rifle/ammo/paper is factored in by using your sizers. Because we are measuring the smudge, shooting a few fouling shots in order to dirty the bore helps a lot because subsequent bullets will print a better/more distinct mark on paper that is easier to read and see.
One good practice to help you understand why we are measuring the outside edge of the smudge is to plug a target - In particular, a sizer. Take a live unfired round and push it slowly into a sizer hole up to the base of the bullet just before it contacts the casing. You will see that the width of the hole made by the bullet is actually larger than you would expect based on the hole in the paper. The smudge left behind by the passing bullet provides a reasonably accurate estimation of the actual size of the hole, especially when averaged across four separate sizers.
MEASURING SOFTWARE
Use of computer-generated measuring software such as OnTarget is encouraged. I do request, however that you post two copies of your target, one with the digitally rendered measuring data and bullet circles and one in it's digitally unaltered/pure form so that we can look at the target without the electronically generated clutter.
I also ask that you type out the group sizes, sizer average, and average of three - and four - groups in your post because reading them off of the computer generated images is sometimes very difficult.
PLEASE remember we are here to have fun and challenge ourselves.
LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!
DrGunner
I'll be happy with top 3
