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Got My 9422M

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eljay
Well, I bought that new Special Addition Traditional Tribute in Waco yesterday. And, I want to thank all you folks who contributed input to my previous post. Anyway, when I went and looked at it yesterday, I went over it as well as I could, and was satifisfied with what I saw and felt. Brought it home. Yesterday evening, after cleaning the bore, I took it out to my berm and, offhand with the open sights, fired 30 rounds through it, shooting offhand at old tennis balls (that my German Shepherd wears out) at 25 yards. Was impressed (considering my trifocals) how well I could send the balls bouncing. Function was perfect, as far as I could tell. Last night, mounted the Leupold 4X off of my (sold) Ranch Rifle. Of course, it's way, way large on the rifle, but all I had. Took it out early this morning (it's way too hot to go out in the middle of the day around here right now) to check out ammo preferences. The little gun will shoot. I tried Winchester SuperX JHP (a first choice, since it's what my 10/22M prefers), CCI MaxiMag, and Federal Supreme, which is a 30 grain JHP. The gun prefers the 40's. At thirty-five yards, the MaxiMag would produce one large, ragged hole. The Winchester would produce three connected holes. The Federal produced three holes not quite touching, and at a different location (low) on the target. The wind was coming up, so I quickly moved back to fifty yards, and produced 3/4 inch groups, edge to edge, with both the MaxiMag, and the Winchester, and printing the same spot on target. All of this shooting over sand bags on the hood of my ('72 Chevy) pickup. Zeroed at that range, and quit for the day.
Later in the day, disassembled the rifle, and went over it with a fine-tooth comb. ALL I found out of order was the screw in the front magazine band not tightened, and the pin that serves the dual function of holding the magazine inner tube cap on and fitting into the slot in the outer magazine tube, had not been properly pressed into place. Sure, they should have been, but not very much to find, after a thorough examination.
I think this gun's a keeper. Maybe not as good as the old ones, but sure a lot better than other modern ones I've been into.
I'm going to keep the scope on this one until my 10/22 Mag comes back from Ruger, as I need it for my night hunting. But after that, I'm going to try a peep sight (http://www.oneraggedhole.com/index.htm), and no scope on this gun. It's just too sweet without being all cluttered up.
Of course, the trigger needs work, and I would appreciate hearing from any of you folks who have experience with trigger work on this gun. I've worked on a lot of gun's triggers, but not one of these. From what I could see today, without taking it any further down, it looks pretty straightforward.
Anyway, I like it a lot. And, as they say, here we go again!
eljay
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Congrats on a fine purchase! When you get a chance you should try some Wincheser Supreme 34gr ammo, great accuracy out of most of my rifles. That one hole sight is something I haven't seen before and I may have to try it out.

If your interested in putting a scope on that bad boy a Weaver 2.5-7x28 is small, light and a very good rimfire scope.

Now you will need to add a 94/22 LR so the Mag doesn't get lonely.
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toivo
Sounds like you got a good one! Congratulations!
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eljay,

Glad it's working out.

I don't recall if you were involved in the peep sight discussions recently, but have you considered the Williams receiver sight for grooved receivers? IIRC, the oneraggedhole version is merely a peep in the same location as the factory open sights. It's a quick solution, but I can't see it adding significantly to the accuracy of the existing sights as the sight radius hasn't changed.

The Williams, on the other hand, is a true "receiver sight," and can be expected to provide real accuracy improvements. They don't require drilling and tapping, and there are threads at RFC that discuss how to mount one without marring the finish. Some folks say they need also to replace the front sight, while others say not. It might be related to barrel length, but even if you have to do it, it's still worth it.

Jaywalker
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eljay,
What I did with both my 9422 LR & 9422M was to buy a couple of Wolff 18 lbs hammer springs for the Ruger Blackhawk to replace the stock hammer springs on my Winchesters. I cut them down and that lightened both the actions and trigger pulls on both rifles. I did my LR first and all was fine but when I did my Maggie, I found that the same length spring for the LR was just a little too light to always set off the Magnums - I guess the rims on the magnums are a little thicker &/or harder than the LR cases. In any case, I shimmed the spring with a washer and had no more problems with misfires. If you're interested in doing this, let me know and I'll pull my 9422M apart and give you a length measurement on the spring.

Jim
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eljay
Jaywalker, I did read the recent discussions on peep sights, and have studied the Williams sights in detail. And I may eventually wind up there. However, what I'm remembering is my Ranch Rifle, which came with a peep sight, in the normal rear sight position, and how well I could shoot with it before I mounted a scope on that rifle. I believe it has to do with trifocals, and fuzzy rear sights, and being able to center the front bead in the circle better than line up the partridge, or whatever, rear sight. So I want to try the easy (and minimum clutter on the rifle) way first, and then, if that doesn't produce the desired results, I'll go to one of the Williams. And thanks very much for the input.
SAAJim, I would like to pursue this, but before you go to the trouble of tearing down your rifle, tell me where, and how, I would come up with one of those springs. As I've mentioned, I'm 100 miles from anywhere (in the way of a big city), so most of my shopping is done by phone. And, if I understand you correctly, if I had a spring and knew the length yours is cut to, couldn't I just leave one more coil over that length, in place of the washer you installed?
By the way, how did you come up with that particular spring?
Also, did you do any stoning on the hammer and sear surfaces? Mine feels very rough coming through the creep, then breaks fairly clean after the creep. Thing is, sometimes it comes through the creep before letting off, and sometimes the force required to overcome the friction at the first of the creep is sufficient to cause letoff. I remounted the scope forward last night, and went out this morning to re-zero. It was too windy (quartering, over my left shoulder, the worst case in my experience), but I got it close enough to go out with on my nightly hunts around my place for predators. Noticed the trigger release variations mentioned above at that time. Boy, could my accuracy with this rifle increase with a good trigger. I WILL have one, some way.
That scope is way to big for the rifle. Be very glad when the 10/22 Mag gets back, so I can take it off that sweet little rascal. And thanks for your input, and thanks in advance for more answers!
eljay
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Rough creep....push on the hammer while you pull the trigger. Do this a little and see if it helps smooth things out.
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eljay,
Buy the springs online directly from Wolff (or you can buy them from Brownell's) - Wolff's website. Scroll down under Ruger Single Action Series Revolvers and look for "Hammer Springs". If you're thinking about getting a 9422 LR, get the 3 pack and you're ready.

Concerning how I came up with that particular spring, I had several of these reduced power hammer springs from the days when I owned several Blackhawks and used them to lighten their actions. When I got my first EMF Hartford (Rossi) 1892 and wanted to lighten the action on that rifle, I noticed the Wolff Blackhawk spring was about the same diameter as the Rossi hammer spring but lighter gauge wire so I started using them in my Rossi's (later used them also in my Win/Miroku 1892 rifles - now there's a fine rifle, esp. after removing the rebounding hammer). So when I got my 9422's, I just naturally tried those springs in them and they worked great.

I believe I did do just a little polishing on all the moving parts on both my 9422's but they were not rough to begin with. Both of mine are from the early '70s so they were early production guns with the smooth stocks which I much prefer to the checkered stocks.

If you decide to do this to your 9422, let me know and I'll run you thru the disassembly procedure which your manual does not cover - only simple takedown covered. It's not hard to do once you know how but I did spend a little time figuring it out and it'll save you time. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Jim
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Jim,
I would appreciate very much not having to stumble my way through that takedown prodedure! I will need it, as I am going to improve that trigger pull, both by stoning the faying surfaces, and a spring change. Also, ;-( in handling my rifle, I have detected the slightest rotational movement of the forepiece. Cannot see it move, but can feel it. Something needs to be tightened, or shimmed a bit. Do you by chance know how the devil that piece comes off/goes on? Please don't tell me the barrel has to come off, as I REALLY, REALLY don't want to do that. And again, thanks for your help.

eljay
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eljay,
The forend is a piece of cake. Remove the two barrel band screws, slide the magazine tube forward out of the rifle, slide the rear barrel band forward off the forend, pull the forend down and forward off the rifle. When reassembling notice the groove near the forward end of the mag tube; the front barrel band screw goes thru this groove.

Jim

PS I just took down my rifle to refresh my memory on the procedure; it was pretty dirty so it needed a complete takedown anyway so when you're ready, I'll run you thru it.
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Jim,

Thanks a bunch! I was about to go and clean it from this morning's firing, and will tackle tightening that forepiece! Funny how a little thing like that can nag at me. Somehow, I know I'll wind up fixing the trigger, but didn't know about the forepiece. Only knew I wasn't going to send it off anywhere to get it fixed, and that it would bug me until it was fixed. Going to do that now. By the way, I did find a three-spring set on Midways which includes a 17, 18, and 19 Lb. spring. And now you have me wondering...I've got some springs out of Rugers, a Security Six and a Speed Six. Wonder if they could possibly be right. I'll probably just order what you used, since it worked for you. But, at your convenience, do go ahead and run me through that takedown procedure, as I want to get in there and look at the parts, and maybe go ahead and stone some surfaces. Thanks again!!

David, aka eljay
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David,
Give me a little time to get organized and write the procedures down and I'll also scan a few parts so you can see what's going on - you know, a picture's worth a thousand words. I do web design so I'll create a page with steps and pictures. Be back to you soon.

Jim
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eljay
Jim,
Thanks very much. I'll be watching for it. Did get the forepiece snugged up. Also got everything clean while I was in there.
Only other thing is the front sight hood. Owner's Manual says simply, "pull forward carefully to remove." I've pulled and pushed all my fingers could stand, can't budge it. Will need to get it off when I am able to start tinkering with peep sights, and want to investigate the Williams Firesight on the front. Is it correct, just pull or push forward hard enough, and that hood will slide off?
Thanks again for all of your help.

David
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The front sight hood is spring steel and is a pretty snug fit in the grooves of the ramp. What I've used is a piece of wood and a hammer to tap the hood forward off the ramp. It'll go; just gently increasing the strength of the tap 'til it starts to move. The wood will protect the hood from damage. Just be careful not to hit the front sight itself.

Jim
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Hi David,
Link to procedures - http://web.tampabay.rr.com/jimstags/win1892/9422takedown.htm

Jim
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