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Factory sights, how do you do it?

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Another user suggested I take this here from the Takedown Forum, so I'll paste my original post and we'll take it from there.

Let me start by saying I'm kind of new to all of this and read what I can.

I got my first 1022 about 3 weeks ago.
It's a takedown.

I'm 64 years old, so when I got my first handgun last year I was told that I must see the front sight on the handgun clearly and I found that to be true. Even when the front sight is clear, I can still see the rear sight on the handgun, and the target well enough to hit it once in awhile.
I'll ad that I used a pair of these to accomplish all of the above because of old age and astigmatism.
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So now I have about 250 rounds through my 1022 and I'm having some trouble seeing and using the factory iron sights.

I turned the rear sight around so it's all black now, and put a white dot on the front brass colored sight and those two things seemed to help a little.
The solid black gives me something to focus on with the white front sight.

The rear sight is where I'm having trouble.
It's blurry to the point that I cannot for the life of me get a sense of where I am left or right now.

So my pressing questions are,

Where are you guys looking, and what's clear and what's not clear?

Is it just me, or is there a better sight system for the 1022?
I know nothing about scopes and was hoping not to go there, but I understand it's
an option.

Lastly, since in my mind in a tactical situation in my home I would be using two eyes, that's how I try to shoot everything.
Is that wrong while at the range with a rifle just plinking at some random targets?
User "sethpa" suggested a red dot and I'm reading about them now.
Not sure if I want to deal with the complexities of a scope at the moment, and the red dot looked like it would get me in the taget zone rather well.

So what are your opinions on scope versus red dot?

I am older and wear glasses. Would I leave on or take off the glasses with a red dot?

Thanks for any ideas?
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bob-nj sir

I’m 50 and was born with wonderful better than 20/20 sight. By the time I was 18 I had to wear glasses to read a chalk board from the back of a class room, now at 50i can’t hardly read 2” print on a box without glasses.

It’s all astigmatism and every two year when I get my eyes checked it’s always been slightly worse. Every four years requires new scrip for my glasses.

In short sir, what I’m saying is I understand sympathetically.

There are two things you can do “or three” depending on how it works for you.
My first experience with fiber optic sights was as exciting as my first experience with contacts, one word.

Out standing

You can use different colors front and rear to find what works for you and line up all three colored dots. They don’t seem to fade out front to back and are excellent in low light when other open sights seem to fail.

Some one suggested peep style sights and those are as varied from super basic to very expensive and also work very well depending on what your trying to do and what combination of peep related sights you are using.

Then you can use a combination of peep and fiber optic. If you are using this sighting system for general hunting and target should work very well for you.

The rear sight in a peep sight system can be a simple ghost ring to a fine peep.

Then the front sight can be even more varied and the combination can get as expensive as optical glass so I usually just go with glass as it’s easier to use and decide what to get and use for a given set up.

Hunting glass for me is usually 4x30 something or 6x40 single power.

Get a rear peep of the right diameter “I think I’m right here” that improves your focus for your use with Target paper punching. Then when in the field hunting you can remover the small peep and use the threaded part as a ghost ring for ease of sight picture.

I would suggest trying both a brass bead and fiber front in either red or green.

My second suggestion would be a front and rear fiber optic sight , red in front and green in rear.
When the red diapers between the green or are lined up with the green your ready to go bang.
Finder optic open sights work great for hunting with open sights and astigmatisms.

Back to peep sights.
I use diopter and peep somewhat enter changeable but they really are not. So for give me. When I said diopter I was referring to peep.

The peep size can tremendously aid your yes in their abilities to focus and the peep or ghost ring virtually disappears so you are only focusing on the front sight and the target. As someone else pointed out your eye/brain automatically centers the peep and it vertically disappears.

Then if you get the sighting system as a whole the muzzle sight is almost unlimited and you choices are as varied as scope choices.

Cross hair, globe, post , post and globe, brass bead, and more. Circle with a cross and dot.
Again it just depends on what you are going to use it for. These front sights with this system are easily changed from one to another if you chose to get them as well.

I’m new to peep sight systems but like them enough to get a ghost ring for my yellow boy and may get more for future walking guns.

I know nothing about diopter other than they focus and are kinda like scopes and peeps and are still considered open sights.

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Go to a gun store near by and ask if any have fiber optic sights already mounted and give them a look. I think you will like them.

If it’s a big box store a Henry youth rifle will have fiber optic or fiber front and ghost ring rear.
This will allow you to experience one or both with out buying them.

I have a stainless marlin .22wmr bolt rifle model 882 that cane factory with fiber optic front and rear.
I found I could use open sights again with them and they opened up my world to open sights again.
Then I recently acquired a marlin 200L biathlon target rifle and it has the peep rear with changeable front sights and again my world to open sights were opened even more.

These two guns at this time are all I have with these open sight systems but in time the rest of my walking guns will have at least a fiber optic front with some sort of peep rear in the future.

I now nothing about the sight system you are going to try except that they are as varied in quality and price as scopes are and my budget only allows for one or the other in those price ranges.

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