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Factory sights, how do you do it?

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Another user suggested I take this here from the Takedown Forum, so I'll paste my original post and we'll take it from there.

Let me start by saying I'm kind of new to all of this and read what I can.

I got my first 1022 about 3 weeks ago.
It's a takedown.

I'm 64 years old, so when I got my first handgun last year I was told that I must see the front sight on the handgun clearly and I found that to be true. Even when the front sight is clear, I can still see the rear sight on the handgun, and the target well enough to hit it once in awhile.
I'll ad that I used a pair of these to accomplish all of the above because of old age and astigmatism.
---> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

So now I have about 250 rounds through my 1022 and I'm having some trouble seeing and using the factory iron sights.

I turned the rear sight around so it's all black now, and put a white dot on the front brass colored sight and those two things seemed to help a little.
The solid black gives me something to focus on with the white front sight.

The rear sight is where I'm having trouble.
It's blurry to the point that I cannot for the life of me get a sense of where I am left or right now.

So my pressing questions are,

Where are you guys looking, and what's clear and what's not clear?

Is it just me, or is there a better sight system for the 1022?
I know nothing about scopes and was hoping not to go there, but I understand it's
an option.

Lastly, since in my mind in a tactical situation in my home I would be using two eyes, that's how I try to shoot everything.
Is that wrong while at the range with a rifle just plinking at some random targets?
User "sethpa" suggested a red dot and I'm reading about them now.
Not sure if I want to deal with the complexities of a scope at the moment, and the red dot looked like it would get me in the taget zone rather well.

So what are your opinions on scope versus red dot?

I am older and wear glasses. Would I leave on or take off the glasses with a red dot?

Thanks for any ideas?
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THE biggest problem with red dot sights and not wearing glasses would be if you have uncorrected stigmatism that yields a dot that is more of an oval or "smear" rather than a crisp dot. That makes it difficult for proper aiming. But then you should wear protective tire eye wear anyway when shooting. :)


I have the same issue, a Red dot is more like a Red Egg shape!

Red dots have one downside, they run out of batteries and can be hard to see on bright sunny days.

Iron sights are great, as they usually come free with the gun, Peep sights even more so

Peeps are essentially a round rear sight which is more precise than the classic V notch

As some may know I'm a scope hater- well sometimes.

If I had a penny for every time I heard someone say "these old eyes" as some justification to get a 50X zoom scope costing £20000 I'd have around £1:50p

Honestly good spectacles are all you need, I have shocking eyesight and look like Eddie the Eagle, but I've been using open sighted rifles since childhood.

Sure it takes more skill than a scope, to use irons and there's your bragging rights. I shoot competitively in the UK in Running Boar moving target and can easily keep up with the Scope guys, My average is 93 out of 100 at a 50 meter moving target.

Usually after stepping off the firing point I have a crowd of slack jawed locals looking at me like I'm Annie Oakley but to be honest its just practice.

A March 50 zoom scope has its place in 1200 yard shoots but 99% of the time people just buy a scope for bragging rights. or to compensate for issues in the trouser department.

Don't be swayed by the crowd, think of it like this, most people like cruddy music, bad food and rubbish telly programs .

Ive always thought the same about scopes, the current trend for massive magnification is a fallacy and won't make a average, to poor shooter better. In fact it can be a major put off.

And there is nothing inherently wrong with scopes. But don't get sucked into the trend of High magnification do all scopes. As a novice it will only add to the confusion.

If you feel you must get a scope. My advice would be get a good quality brand at low magnification, try not to be swayed by gizmos and trinkets and the ability to tell the time on other planets, whilst re ordering you ammo via the internet and calling you wife to say your will be running late....

Sometimes less is more!

A good 3x9 variable zoom is more than adequate for most purposes. Personally I prefer fixed magnification scopes as there are less components and therefore less to go wrong. Also cleaner lines.

Leupold 6x42

I would recommend Leupold,Vortex or my Favorite Nikon. But theses will still set you back many hundreds or Dollars.

Don't be tempted to get a cheapo scope it will most likely fail.

Or you could just stick with Iron sights and learn to shoot proper like me :D
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This is all Very Very good stuff, and thank you.
There are so many things that I'm just not aware of, and don't have the experience to consider, but that's where you guys come in.


I would love to shoot proper like you, and in my original post I mentioned that I didn't want to go the scope route, but I can't see the sights like you. That's the reason for my post. I needed some help, guidance, and opinions on what you
guys do in my situation.
I wasn't sure if it was just me, or what the heck was going on.
I just knew that after 250 rounds in my new gun, it's time to look at options
because what I was seeing just wasn't consistent or fun.

So, today I'm going to the local gun shop to look at a red dot and see what they are all about.
Hopefully I'll find some common ground and get comfortable with the sight picture so I can start working on not moving the gun.

Thanks again, and I'll let you know how I make out.

Take care
Hi Bob,

glad to see your a scope cynic like myself!

It could be your glasses? but then shooting glasses are quite expensive. I got some Zeiss ones and I ended up wearing them as my everyday specs, as they are so clear, its like the world is in high defintition! IT really helps me gain a sight picture.

Often using iron sights it is quite blurry anyway, try to keep both eyes open and focus on the front sight.

For a red dot I would recommend a tube type sight as it will function better on bright days.

Depending on your budget there are some good choices.

Cheap but good are Hawke

Vortex are a little more expensive and come with a lifetime guarantee

Leupold more expensive and higher quality still and also lifetime guarantee.

Good luck old chap!
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