well, anyway, fwiw, got one in 22 mag coming in about a week or so. will wring it out and post a range report. according to an e-mail i received from EAA corp, should do .5 - 1" @100 yds, which to me is amazing, with the right ammo and the right shooter, as they claimed. got all the ammo..............now for the right shooter...............?? ummmmmmmmmmm...........scope......????????? help!! all i have not in use is a tasco4-12X