Champion barrels for $89, any good?

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Manford Trens

Discussion Starter · Mar 31, 2017

CDNN is advertising 18" blued bull barrels for $89, and fluted version for $99. looks like they have some stainless left as well. Not sure I need another barrel right now, but was wondering if any of you have experience with or insider knowledge of these barrels. They say "Champion manufacture" and claim Bentz match chambers. I know Champion is just a brand of (cheap) acessories and gun stuff, but who actually makes these barrels? The muzzle design is highly reminiscent of GM, but the finishing work seems a little poorer.

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patriot07

· #21 · Dec 9, 2017

Thanks!

Dranrab

· #22 · Dec 13, 2017

patriot07 said:
Doesn't appear those shooters ridge barrels are for sale anymore.

I'm debating between Champion, ER Shaw, and a Kidd ultra-light. Would love to have something that shoots consistently in the ballpark of .5".

I just bought a stainless bull ER Shaw from Midway for $129. I have had it out once. I tried 5 different mid price level rounds through it. Since I was just breaking the rifle in and getting a feel for what it could do I fired 5 shot groups at 50 yards. Everything went under an inch and with Norma Match, it went under 1/2 inch.

Dranrab

· #23 · Dec 13, 2017

I just went to CDNN site. They have two of the three barrels for $80 now.

jam_ppp

· #24 · Dec 13, 2017 (Edited)

Does a 16" Target Barrel make sense?

I'm not a bench rest shooter and don't really plan to do competitions. Range & Plinking maybe to 100 yards
But I want to do some upgrades to maximize accuracy.

Starting with a stock Carbine (Stainless)
First thing I plan is a trigger job, and after that some cleaning and polishing of inside receiver etc, considering a new barrel - so my questions:

1) Given my range / plinking shooting, does upgrading the barrel really make sense - will it improve accuracy enough to matter for my purposes.
2) If so, thinking I want a 16" Stainless target barrel - keeping it short as possible to minimize weight. I also have a longer LOP, so thinking 20" just puts too much weight out there to hold comfortably.
3)Lots of good $80 - $130 options for 18" Stainless barrels out there now, but don't see any deals on a 16". Will the 1" - 1.5" matter that much? Should i just grab a good deal now on 18" or am I missing a 16" option?

BY THE WAY - New York State means it has to be a non-threaded option.

Thanks,
jam

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Chaser

· #25 · Dec 13, 2017

patriot07 said:
Doesn't appear those shooters ridge barrels are for sale anymore.

I'm debating between Champion, ER Shaw, and a Kidd ultra-light. Would love to have something that shoots consistently in the ballpark of .5".

Champion? I know nothing about that barrel... ER Shaw's I have some input.. not as good as GM's IMO and I have owned 3.. 1 however I sent to Que when he was re-chambering and it does shoot MOAish with decent ammo... ALL my herd of KID/KIDD barrels shoot sub-MOA and with a variety of ammo and always very consistent.... no need for high end ammo with KID barrels unless you intend to compete.

Pay more worry less... I have never regretted paying for anything with a KID/KIDD label.

patriot07

· #26 · Dec 13, 2017

Chaser said:
Champion? I know nothing about that barrel... ER Shaw's I have some input.. not as good as GM's IMO and I have owned 3.. 1 however I sent to Que when he was re-chambering and it does shoot MOAish with decent ammo... ALL my herd of KID/KIDD barrels shoot sub-MOA and with a variety of ammo and always very consistent.... no need for high end ammo with KID barrels unless you intend to compete. Pay more worry less... I have never regretted paying for anything with a KID/KIDD label.

I ended up getting a GM 20" fluted stainless. Couldn't afford the Kidd and got a great deal on the GM, so that's what I'm going with. I think it will be fine for my purposes.

ILIKE1022

· #27 · Dec 13, 2017

patriot07 said:
I ended up getting a GM 20" fluted stainless. Couldn't afford the Kidd and got a great deal on the GM, so that's what I'm going with. I think it will be fine for my purposes.

That should tickle your fancy. GM for the money makes a barrel very close to Kidd. And for the money that is saying something. I have 5 Kidd and 4 GM. And I have ownned 2 more GM.

patriot07

· #28 · Dec 14, 2017

ILIKE1022 said:
That should tickle your fancy. GM for the money makes a barrel very close to Kidd. And for the money that is saying something. I have 5 Kidd and 4 GM. And I have ownned 2 more GM.

:bthumb:

dbmjr1

· #29 · Dec 14, 2017

jam_ppp said:
. . .
BY THE WAY - New York State means it has to be a non-threaded option.

Thanks,
jam

How do you attach your silencer?

jam_ppp

· #30 · Dec 14, 2017

dbmjr1 said:
How do you attach your silencer?

Exactly - In NY you can't. It's even better, no 'thumb-hole' stocks either.

I'm also going to go the GM route, 16" Stainless per ILIKE1022's suggestion. That gives me what I want, a bit more than I wanted to spend, but I think this is one place it makes sense to do that.

rawhp

· #31 · Dec 14, 2017

jam_ppp said:
Exactly - In NY you can't. It's even better, no 'thumb-hole' stocks either.

Next they'll require you to have your thumbs removed in order to own a 10/22...

cznut

· #32 · Dec 19, 2017

rawhp said:
Next they'll require you to have your thumbs removed in order to own a 10/22...

good one....

jam_ppp

· #33 · Dec 19, 2017

rawhp said:
Next they'll require you to have your thumbs removed in order to own a 10/22...

The equivalent of "gelded"...

The GM 16" Fluted Stainless arrived today, but I still don't have anything to attach it to. Hope in the next week to pick up a receiver/bolt/trigger group assembly, then stock & scope.

ILIKE1022

· #34 · Dec 19, 2017

jam_ppp said:
The equivalent of "gelded"...

The GM 16" Fluted Stainless arrived today, but I still don't have anything to attach it to. Hope in the next week to pick up a receiver/bolt/trigger group assembly, then stock & scope.

I have 3 of those 16.5" fluted blued barrels and all shoot exceptionally well. All love CCI sv and SK Pistol Match.

jam_ppp

· #35 · Dec 19, 2017

ILIKE1022 said:
I have 3 of those 16.5" fluted blued barrels and all shoot exceptionally well. All love CCI sv and SK Pistol Match.

Off to Walmart for some CCI sv....

ILIKE1022

· #36 · Dec 19, 2017

Here ya go.

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jam_ppp

· #37 · Dec 20, 2017

ILIKE1022 said:
Here ya go.

Thanks, appreciate all the suggestions I get here - I like that folks have facts behind the opinions. My wallet however, is really not liking how much time i've been spending on this forum!

rawhp

· #38 · Dec 20, 2017

jam_ppp said:
Thanks, appreciate all the suggestions I get here - I like that folks have facts behind the opinions. My wallet however, is really not liking how much time i've been spending on this forum!

You can't be sure unless you've asked. It could be that you're wallet has been feeling a little bloated, and it happy it's shedding that extra weight.

PS. My suggestion is to not let anyone hear you talking to your wallet. It's bad enough if they know you're on RFC every waking moment. :coco:

jam_ppp

· #39 · Dec 20, 2017

CCI Standard Velocity

ILIKE1022 said:
I have 3 of those 16.5" fluted blued barrels and all shoot exceptionally well. All love CCI sv and SK Pistol Match.

When I search for CCI Standard Velocity I get some different hits. Their #0032 seems to be the ones you are talking about, but I also find #0035 that seem the same, and they don't show up on CCI site?

ILIKE1022

· #40 · Dec 20, 2017

CCI Standard Velocity 1070fps 40gr lead round nose.

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