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Chief Says : Run out of things to do ?

Find your Bull-pup , Chop it down to usable size.

Now , it may have been a good design , but I cannot hit squat

with my head off the stock . Sight too high . I FIX, I THINK !

 

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Why didn't you add a comb riser of some sort?
You wouldnt have lost the carry handle and it might have been better for offhand shooting.
Then again its nice to have the scope closer to the barrel.
What kinda groups do u get with that gun and what kinda hardware do u have on it?



Just a side question....you were a sniper in the Vietnam war?
Did you carry the M24 (I think) Remington 700 based heavy barrel bolt action?
If so, what did you think of lugging around the gun?
I was thinking of getting a Remington 700 varmint synthetic with a barrel about the same size and wondered if it'd get combersome walking in the woods with it for deer hunting.
 

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Chief says : like the AR-15 CARRY HANDLE this bullpup
keeps your head high on the stock. The 4 to 5 inch optic
center above the bore , really throws a kink in accurate shooting.

Much like the AR-15 , M16 if carried properly as designed it
rendered the weapon pointing in an unsafe direction.
(straight foreward or backward).
Instead of the muzzle upward or downward as we were all
tought from birth.

I Stressed this to several Top military SMG/SOT officals , last fall
at meetings , they all agreed totally , and may have already
demanded some changes in the US arsonal of weapons.
Most likely just issue of flattops per scoped rifles.

Yes . I was a shooter in Nam, carried many different rifles.
One type which you spoke of - styled 700 rem in 7mm. Starlite
equipped. What I would have gave if it could have been a

7mm mag - instead of the old 7mm = could have kicked butt.

The bullpup scope conversion is nothing more than.

a set od see thru scope rings : reversed and clamped to the
.920 barrel leaving the flat ends upward for attaching a long
piece of weaver rail stock. Then attaching a scope with "low"
rings.
lowered the sight line about 50 % now 2 1/4" above bore.

ChiefDave
 

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ChiefDave, have you figured out any way to improve the trigger pull on these? I had one a few yrs ago, but it was horrible. Wouldn't feed properly without taking it apart every 5 rds, and the trigger made current lawyer triggers look like Jewels. Does yours feed ok, or did you have to fiddle with that too? Thanks.
 

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If you put a little oil on the inside slide rails and do NOT over tighten (or even tighten beyond threading) the screws near butt and trigger, it pulls every time... and nothing is loose either... That's what I found works best.
 

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Chief says :
iI have found that the trigger pull is increased by about 1/2
pound by the linkage of the pups trigger .
If your standard Ruger trigger was puling at 3 punds it would now pull at 3 -1/2 pounds with the muzzlite asetup.
Basically what we end up with is a 10-22 how ever its tricked out
housed inside a plastic body with a trigger pushing linkage to a trigger. I see no problems that can be caused by the stock other
than stiff trigger pull.
One thing that many confuse as a stock related malfunction
when actually it is NOT . Is jamming ........
Most of the time this is the magazines fault, as many like the
appearance of the hi-cap magazine with the gun.
Personally , mine is just there for show. When I shoot the bullpup, I use 10-22 10 shot mags (end to end).
I know that plastic and metal feed lipped (hi-cap) mags
are short lived , soon to wear off the tip that ejects the case
causing mautiple jams.
With the BX-1 Factory mags = no worry= no probems.

Ive never yet had to take the stock apart , to fix a jam or feed problem.

CD.
 

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Where did you find a piece of long weaver rail and about how much did it run you? I need a farily long piece for my bullpup project. Also how are those mounts working out. does it hold a zero ok or are the barrel :D scope mounts sliding with the barrel temp changing? if they slide you could try what i plan to do once i get the time and have part of the rail mounted to the reciever and the other to the barrel. You could cut a block of aluminum to raise it to whatever height you needed. When you get a chance let me know. Major Oh one last thing do you think the bullpup stock feels better with an 18" barrel or a 20" barrel? (heavy barrels that is)
 

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Hey Dave....

Bullpup'd my 10/22 this weekend and now am thinking I need to do the same mod.

What about the bolts in the top part of the stock that you cut away ? what is holding the stock halves together now ? any close up pics ?

Bob Adams
 

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Chief says : OOOH ! NOW have to admit to afro-engineering.
And that it is !
I never quite devised a way to hold the top portion of the
stock togather, that was better than the two bolts that
were taken out.
So I did the best thing. I cut them out of the oud handle,
foled them down on the backsides.
Glued the nut (portion) into the same side it came from.
Drilled a matching hole in the other side , for the screw to
go into.
CRUDE , but hidden , except the screw (bolt ) head. worked
so far.
RAILSTOCK was purchased from Brownells in a 10" section.
Then slots cut for the scoperings.
GOT to be a BETTER WAY .
i am all ears.
CD.
 

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Gotta revisit the Chief's idea....

I may buy one of these... and Chief asked about a better way to go about this.... I think the scope rings are a good idea, BUT, why can't one do THIS.... It'll require a bit of machine work, but since when has that worried us DEDICATED sorts :D

Since I'm unfamiliar with the internal structure of these things... you'l have to bear with me.

Ok, One would start with a 1.250" piece of SQUARE aluminum bar stock. Indicate it in 4 jaw chuck in lathe... Bore a .920" hole through it for about 2" cut this piece off, and do the same to another... Now, there are several ways to go about this from here...

A: one can attach weaver rail to a side of the blocks, and attach them to the barrel with set screws.
B: one can cut the weaver slots in the block and drill/tap holes in the barrel and blocks to mount them to...

NOW, this raises the issue again of how much room is in the stock. It may rwquire a different approach, like using "taller" pieces of aluminum, or contouring the new "bases"....

Lemme know what you think!

Sincerely,
GAU-2
 

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ChiefDave said:

So I did the best thing. I cut them out of the oud handle,
foled them down on the backsides.
Glued the nut (portion) into the same side it came from.
Drilled a matching hole in the other side , for the screw to
go into.
CRUDE , but hidden , except the screw (bolt ) head. worked
so far.
Hi Chief, I'm not getting what you're saying. I'm thinking of getting a bullpup stock, and your setup is what inspired me, but if I can't do it I wont' go bullpup. Was this hard to do? Please explain the steps in better detail (or get a whiteman to translate for you :D)
 
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