[dave19113]

With my new super grade inbound, I reached into the gun safe to shoot a few other 10/22's

After rescoping my Charger with Kidd barrel and re zeroing I moved onto my problem child Fedderson barreled 10/22

I hoped the accuracy issues that plagued it had disappeared, but no dice.

Will all the luck I've had with my charger kidd build; shooting pretty much everything awesome, I figured its time for a new barrel and Kidd was gonna be it.

This is going to be set up for the bench so weight is not an issue.

I was bouncing back and forth between the 18 or 20 inch unfluted HB.

Wanted to get some opinions on which barrel to go with?

This is a factory Ruger receiver and bolt with a kidd single stage trigger group.

It sits in a magpul stock - subject to change

 

[Cowpokey]

We have 5 full Kidd rifles with ULW 16.5" barrels, single stage triggers. Four of them are "race guns", the other is a "squirrel gun".

I also have a Ruger 10/22 Target stainless with the "spiral" fluted barrel and Kidd single stage trigger. It is incredibly accurate out to 100 yards off the bench, never tried it at longer distances. I have seen those barrels "available" on some retail sites like Brownell's and eBay (IIRC, been a couple years).

The Kidd heavy barrels are supposed to be great. I don't have any experience with them, but that would be my choice.

 

[Toomany22s]

Ya know , go with something different, make your own VQ LVT

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224645932316?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

Or even more different

https://www.sarcoinc.com/17-caliber-hm2-ss-18-inches-long-920-o-d/

The hm2, with a PC heavy handle is a lot of fun

 

[Nick7274]

I have 6 Kidd barreled 10/22 style rifles including 2 Supergrade's. My most accurate one is a 20" non-fluted. I don't necessarily think the length has anything to do with it being the most accurate, one of them has to be. The only 10/22 style rifle I have that is more accurate than the 20" Kidd is a 16" fluted & threaded Feddersen barreled action. All of them are very accurate and the difference between the 2 that I mentioned is extremely miniscule. Anyone could get a 20" barrel and have it be more accurate than a 16" and vice-versa.

 

[jplogue]

20" Stainless

I asked on the Kidd website a while back which of their barrels would produce the best accuracy. I wasn't sure I would get a definitive answer, but they responded that the barrel with the most potential for accuracy was their 20" Stainless Heavy Barrel...not fluted and not threaded.

I happen to have that barrel on a build I bought a while back...my friends refer to that rifle as "magic" for a good reason.

 

[Cowpokey]

I they responded that the barrel with the most potential for accuracy was their 20" Stainless Heavy Barrel...not fluted and not threaded.

My Vudoo Three 60 has a 20" barrel, MTU, not threaded or fluted.

 

[Protongunner]

We have 5 full Kidd rifles with ULW 16.5" barrels, single stage triggers. Four of them are "race guns", the other is a "squirrel gun".

I also have a Ruger 10/22 Target stainless with the "spiral" fluted barrel and Kidd single stage trigger. It is incredibly accurate out to 100 yards off the bench, never tried it at longer distances. I have seen those barrels "available" on some retail sites like Brownell's and eBay (IIRC, been a couple years).

The Kidd heavy barrels are supposed to be great. I don't have any experience with them, but that would be my choice.

The Ruger website has those spiral target barrels for $99 blued or $119 stainless. I've never owned one but seen lots of good reviews on them. At that price it's very tempting to give one a try.

https://shopruger.com/10_22-Target-Barrel-Stainless/productinfo/90551/

https://shopruger.com/10_22-Target-Barrel-Blued/productinfo/90550/

FWIW, I just recently picked up a threaded 20-in Kidd heavy barrel and like it alot.

 

[heartburn]

If you are set on going KIDD then either the 20" or the 18" will probably be fine. I like the 18" length for 10/22's but have recently started going all 16.5" threaded for suppressed shooting.
Another option would be to give Feddersen a call and see if they can go over the current barrel and see if anything can be found to repair or replace the barrel. I have had great experience with Feddersen and have no doubt that Fred would attempt to make it right.

 

[Rod Blackburn]

If you are set on going KIDD then either the 20" or the 18" will probably be fine. I like the 18" length for 10/22's but have recently started going all 16.5" threaded for suppressed shooting.
Another option would be to give Feddersen a call and see if they can go over the current barrel and see if anything can be found to repair or replace the barrel. I have had great experience with Feddersen and have no doubt that Fred would attempt to make it right.

This ^^^^^

 

[Horsefly]

Regarding the Fedderson Barrel:

Do you have another proven barrel that you could swap it out with to make sure there isn't some underlying issue causing the innacuracy?

Also. If the barrel is a problem, Fedderson will want to know about it. I'd give them a call and see what they can/will do for you.

 

[ammohog]

Use a borescope to see what the problem is with the Feddersen barrel. My Feddersen barrel doesn't fear the brush, and have had good luck with Rem 40X bore cleaner and a bronze brush. Get a borescope, it has become an integral tool in my cleaning procedure. It saves me time and money - but most importantly it spots the trouble and takes the mystery out of bore cleaning. You don't have to spend a thousand dollars, one like this works fine. Just do it.

https://teslong.com/collections/rif...w-rifle-borescope-with-4-5-inch-ips-hd-screen

 

[dave19113]

I asked on the Kidd website a while back which of their barrels would produce the best accuracy. I wasn't sure I would get a definitive answer, but they responded that the barrel with the most potential for accuracy was their 20" Stainless Heavy Barrel...not fluted and not threaded.

I happen to have that barrel on a build I bought a while back...my friends refer to that rifle as "magic" for a good reason.

Thats what I like to hear :bthumb:

 

[dave19113]

If you are set on going KIDD then either the 20" or the 18" will probably be fine. I like the 18" length for 10/22's but have recently started going all 16.5" threaded for suppressed shooting.
Another option would be to give Feddersen a call and see if they can go over the current barrel and see if anything can be found to repair or replace the barrel. I have had great experience with Feddersen and have no doubt that Fred would attempt to make it right.

I was going to do that, the problem is when I bought it, it was unthreaded.

It didn't shoot too well but I figured it would settle down with time. I was caught up with other projects and put it aside.

when I got back to it about a year ago I had it threaded for suppressor use.

I continued to try working on accuracy but never had it happen. ( and I tried a lot of higher end ammo)

So the long way around it is I'm not sure if Fedderson would honor it just because I did do work on it.

 

[h. dumpty]

Huh funny thing Dave. I recently did the exact same thing you did. I put a fedderson barrel on a build where it shot not great but respectable groups. I wanted to thread it but put it on the side burner because I got started on some center fire builds. Well a few years later I came back to it and threaded it myself and never seemed to get good accuracy out of it. I never even tried to ask fedderson about it because I did the work myself ( more along the lines of I was too scared to ask.) The wife sneaked into my wish list and bought me a KSA barrel for anniversary/early Christmas present but at the same time found out what I was getting her 😠. I put on the KSA and have the fedderson in the spare parts bin.

 

[Horsefly]

If you took it upon yourself to thread a barrel & suffer accuracy, it's not likely the manufacturer's issue.

Fedderson makes a very good barrel and if someone has accuracy issues with one they should contact Fedderson. If someone purchases a Kid barrel and has accuracy issues, they should contact Kid. They will want to know and will most likely make it right!

A reputable company welcomes folks reporting issues to them so that they can understand the problems and take measures to eliminate them in the future. Both Fedderson & Kid are GREAT small businesses that want satisified customers.

Just my 22 cents!

 

[dave19113]

If you took it upon yourself to thread a barrel & suffer accuracy, it's not likely the manufacturer's issue.

Fedderson makes a very good barrel and if someone has accuracy issues with one they should contact Fedderson. If someone purchases a Kid barrel and has accuracy issues, they should contact Kid. They will want to know and will most likely make it right!

A reputable company welcomes folks reporting issues to them so that they can understand the problems and take measures to eliminate them in the future. Both Fedderson & Kid are GREAT small businesses that want satisified customers.

Just my 22 cents!

yes, I agree. Unfortunately the issue was before the threading. I just thought it would settle down. I should of been on it more and followed through. It was put aside for other projects, which is on me.

It never did get better. So I probably received a barrel that had issue. Me sending it out for threading is on me, hence the reason I would not contact Fedderson

Not to say anything bad about Fedderson but occasionally, I don't care what you buy, nothing is ever 100%.

With that said, I would buy a Fedderson again. My choice for Kidd is just because I own and have shot quite a few, with excellent results

 

[Nick7274]

I asked on the Kidd website a while back which of their barrels would produce the best accuracy. I wasn't sure I would get a definitive answer, but they responded that the barrel with the most potential for accuracy was their 20" Stainless Heavy Barrel...not fluted and not threaded.

I happen to have that barrel on a build I bought a while back...my friends refer to that rifle as "magic" for a good reason.

Thats what I like to hear

The key word here is "potential" for best accuracy. I have 16" & 18" Kidd barrels including some that are fluted that are more than capable of printing groups in the low .2's and even .1's. Kidd doesn't even offer the accuracy guarantee on their ULW barrels, but if you ask people who own them they'll tell they're just as accurate as any other one.

 

[ammohog]

Too bad you didn't read post #11.

 

[TMW99577]

Putting a Kidd barrel on a Ruger receiver is a bit like putting a Ferrari engine in a Hyundai. I say go for a Kidd barrel in a Kidd receiver.

 

[Horsefly]

It amazes my that people buy products.....modify them.....have issues.....and then try to call out the manufacturer!

Just sittin' here shakin' my head! :shakehead