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Are "Stock" Stocks Really That Bad?

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BlindFaith429
One of the biggest thing I see people replacing are the stocks. It's easy to do, and changes the look and feel so much.

I have a pair of 10/22's that are "pre-ban" (since I am in a gun-law heavy state, I found some older, used rifles).

Both rifles have plenty of internal mods (KIDD parts + Brimstone trigger jobs).

One rifle got one of the plastic "modular" stocks. I really like the slim, lightweight feel of them and the changeable LOP / comb height is really nice.

For the second, I was considering using the old "factory" carbine stock. It has some really cool tiger-stripe iridescent effects in the wood, but it has the carbine band on the front.

Are these stocks bad? Or do people just replace them due to ergonomics, and not for function / accuracy reasons?

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yrunvs
I have accurized my 1994 10/22 and if I do my job it shoots MOA. Here's what I did.

1. Sanded and Tru oiled it. It's rather nice looking now.
2. Sanded the barrel channel and free floated the barrel.
3. Massaged the barrel band with sandpaper so that it does not touch the barrel and is only there for looks.
4. Glass bedded the barrel and action.
5. Glass bedded a brass pillar from the top of the take down collar to ever so slightly above wood so that I have only metal to metal contact.
6. Replaced stock v block with Gunsmither block.
7. Placed an aftermarket 1/4" comb riser pad to level my eye with the Signature 36x42 scope.
8. Replaced stock barrel with a Green Mountain 20" SS fluted barrel
9. Replaced stock trigger with a Volquartsen trigger.
10. Renewed firing pin, extractor and charging handle.
11. Did a DYI bolt job and polished bolt and receiver inside and out.


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Many of the people who push the message that factory stocks are bad, happen to sell aftermarket stocks - what a coincidence.
And if they can call it a "chassis" - well that's even more money for them. :rolleyes:

My thing are sporter rifles, so I'm not one who really needs that last little bit of accuracy.
That being said, I have found that many of my rifles in their OEM walnut demonstrate outstanding accuracy far beyond my modest shooting abilities.
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crackedcornish
factory stocks generally get replaced because of looks...the typical birch/beech factory stock is pretty plain jane, with little to no grain showing...and like you said "it's easy to do"

every once in awhile Ruger screws up, and makes a pretty one tho...so keep your eyes open...you never know when you'll run across a nice one

this one was given to me by a friend



and I see some of the misguided "ban" states banning pistol grips, flash hiders, and even thumbhole stocks, but I don't think there is anything saying you can't get a basic 10/22 in any state...so "pre-ban" shouldn't apply to a plain 10/22
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Yeah, what ban?

(I've been off the forum for a while as Life Happened, so forgive my sudden unannounced reappearance.... But... what ban?)
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BlindFaith429 said:
One of the biggest thing I see people replacing are the stocks. It's easy to do, and changes the look and feel so much.

I have a pair of 10/22's that are "pre-ban" (since I am in a gun-law heavy state, I found some older, used rifles).

Both rifles have plenty of internal mods (KIDD parts + Brimstone trigger jobs).

One rifle got one of the plastic "modular" stocks. I really like the slim, lightweight feel of them and the changeable LOP / comb height is really nice.

For the second, I was considering using the old "factory" carbine stock. It has some really cool tiger-stripe iridescent effects in the wood, but it has the carbine band on the front.

Are these stocks bad? Or do people just replace them due to ergonomics, and not for function / accuracy reasons?

Thanks!
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Ergonomics would be very much enough reason to replace the factory stocks on many rifles, the 10/22 included.

Particularly in the case of scoped sighting setups, ANY of the Ruger 10/22 stocks are just flat terrible for cheekpiece height. Much akin to the Garand, and many field shotgun designs, the Ruger Carbine in particular was only ever really designed for use with irons, and it's fairly low even for that.
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BlindFaith429
Thanks for the input guys, I really appreciate it. @crackedcornish that's a beautiful stock. Mine isn't quite as pretty as that one, but similar.

For the "ban", I live in CT, with a revamped AWB from the 90's. My original plan was to do a threaded barrel with an AGP side-folder, so that would be an issue with a "current" 10/22. Too many "evil" features.

I do have the AGP stock that I can use, but part of me really likes the plain look of the classic wood stock. I'm at the point in the build that I need to decide which one to use, as it will help determine the barrel I get.

The plan was to mount a TRS-25 on this build, on an "outer impact" rail (very low to the receiver). If I do need a riser, it wont be much.
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Vincent
If you want to retain the factory stocks you might want to check the "Stickies" in SuperStock Forum. There is a stickie for glass bedding and another for bedding with aluminum tape that is great for those that are not comfortable with all the epoxy or of gluing the action to the stock. Also the tape bedding is great for those plastic factory stocks who do not really lend themselves to glass bedding. Look around RFC and you will find other Glass Bed stickies.

For just plain "mechanical accuracy" the factory stocks are just as good as any other stock once they are bedded. That is also true of every aftermarket stock I have looked at.
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BlindFaith429
Here's a pic of my Modular Stock build. This will eventually wear a low-power scope, and the TRS-25 red dot will move to my other rifle.

As shown, it tips the scales at just a smidge over 5 pounds.

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Toomany22s
Looks and functional! If the stock looks good and does its job , then your3 done. Looks , well that# up to you. Function, holds the action firm, but doesnt apply unbalanced torque, the barrel channel is clean and apllys pressures where you want . It fits you. And if it’s compatible with the rest or bipod you like.
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C Kerley Jr
I did it strictly for looks. It had functioned perfect since 1984, I just wanted the walnut.
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The OEM birch stock makes the 10/22 feel fat, plus it adds weight. It's also a huge bear to refinish. I've tried refinishing mine multiple times, but it always comes out splotchy and this was the best I was able to do. I recently took it off and put a factory plastic one on that's Coyote Brown in color.
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Toomany22s
I have a bunch of 1022 s, and the only ones in a stock stock, meaning a stock that came from ruger, are these.
Actually , surprising to me.

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mauiblue
I have a Talo Target Tactical 10/22 I purchased years ago and just hated the LOP and the low cheek weld. I bought a Magpul X22 Hunter stock over a year ago and finally installed it a few days ago. Wow, what a difference. Fully adjustable LOP and five different risers to choose from. Oh, yeah! Now I can set up my 10/22 to my preference and I am loving it.
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