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My question is does your rifle have the same POI with a cold barrel as it does
with it warm? I have two CZ's and both are about 1" off with a cold barrel
on the first shot. I also have a KDF that shoots the same cold or hot. I just
ordered my 1st Anschutz and was wondering how these guns do. As a matter
of fact my CZ's arn't really on for about 3 shots. I don't hunt anymore so it
is not a problem with me but I would think this might be a problem while
hunting where your shot would be more than likely from a cold barrel. Also
would like to know from a clean barrel as compared to dirty. Again my KDF
shoots at the same point but not my CZ's.
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Not having the same POI after the first shot is a common phenomina of smallbore rifles. Some do better than others, however. Cold and clean is possibly the worse condition. With competition rifles, this is not really a problem since there is an allowance for sighters and foulers in the course of fire. You do not go to record until the barrel is warmed up and dirty. If it is a hunting rifle, you need to determine where a cold rifle will shoot so that appropriate compensation can be factored into that first shot. FWIW, an old smallbore prone shooters once told me that if the first shot out of the barrel is not exactly where you aimed it, you need to look at the bedding.
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Most of mine are heavy barreled guns and don't seem to wander much from shot to shot. But as others have said, this kinda thing can make or break a huntin' gun... IMHO, it's more of an issue with skinnier barrels.

The guns on my "most trusted" list are those huntin' firearms that I know will shoot to where they are supposed to on that all-important first shot.

They all happen to be heavy barreled weapons as well, including my Sako Finnfire with a custom Lilja bull barrel, my HB Annie 1717D, my Annie 54.18MSR, etc. :)
 

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`g`day from australia,i am answering your thread so that you might understand rimfires a bit better.i/we {my partner and i } have a NEW ANSCHUTZ 2013 BR and the first shot from a dead cold or a just cleaned and cold barrel will go as far as 8"{that is eight inches } from the intended target,the 2 nd shot takes the dot.we have learn`t to fire the FIRST shot under the target frame altogether.we have shot several 250`s but as a hunting rifle, unless it was a very dumb bunny that allowed a warm-up shot within 8" and that is at 50 mts this gun would be useless for hunting,BUT, AS A BENCHREST GUN there isn`t enough money in any bank that we would part with it.
 

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hotdogdogau said:
`g`day from australia,i am answering your thread so that you might understand rimfires a bit better.i/we {my partner and i } have a NEW ANSCHUTZ 2013 BR and the first shot from a dead cold or a just cleaned and cold barrel will go as far as 8"{that is eight inches } from the intended target,the 2 nd shot takes the dot.we have learn`t to fire the FIRST shot under the target frame altogether.we have shot several 250`s but as a hunting rifle, unless it was a very dumb bunny that allowed a warm-up shot within 8" and that is at 50 mts this gun would be useless for hunting,BUT, AS A BENCHREST GUN there isn`t enough money in any bank that we would part with it.
Wow 8" off on the first shot. IMO there is something wrong.
Like you said though if it shoots great other wise don't touch a thing. Bench-
rest is it's intented purpose.
 

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ftstinyc I don't know if it will be your cure . But recently my 54 super match which was made in 1963 started shooting worse and worse and the gun always had a cold shot . So a smithy told me to get some JB bore paste and run it through the barrel on a brush 10-15 strokes and then use a patch with solvent through it 2-3- times , then patch it till it's dry . Dry out the action too and make sure you don't leave any paste in the action . Got rid of my cold shot and shrunk my groups back down . So I have pre A Winchester that wasn't shooting up to snuff either , and it made a great difference in it too . Also did my new 1416D that wasn't satisfying me and when I shot her this evening , I finnally got those 3/8' groups I was looking for , and couple 1/4" , before it seemed to be a struggle to keep them within 1/2" , but let me also say on this rifle it was new to me and getting used to the gun probally played a part in improvement too .
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