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pip_daddy_dog

Discussion Starter · Mar 30, 2003

I was just out shooting today. I cleaned my 597, did a little polishing on the inside top of the receiver and lightly lubed the guide rails. I put the set skrews back just to the point that they are just snug. I was still having some feeding problems. I have four magazines for it. The factory one (plastic with red follower), two factory replacements (plastic with orange followers) and a metal one that remington gave me when I sent my gun back in for a broken extractor. I took each one apart cleaning each part, even the spring. I did put just a little gun oil on the sides of the followers before I put them back together. I did take them apart seperately to make sure that I keep the same parts together. Now when I go to load them I can put 6 or 7 rounds in each one then it seems like they are getting bound up and there is no tension on the top round. Another way to describe it is that if you push down on the top round ( any one after 7 rounds) they do not spring back up. Thus this is giving me a major feeding problem. I am just about out of patience with this gun. It worked excelent before I sent it back to Remington and now I have a "plinker" that does not plink. By the way when I was able to get it to feed I was getting 1.25" groups at 25 yards. I have purchased a laminate stock off gunbroker and floated the barrel. If I ever get this thing to feed I am going to try to pillar bed the front of the barrel to try to improve the consistancy. For anyone that is wondering if it is the frustated shooter and not the gun, I was able to get sub .5" groups with my 10/22. Another thing about my 597 that I noticed was its desire to digest subsonic ammo. I was getting best results with Remington vipers. Funny thing is that I can not get them to feed in my Ruger.........It must be a Remington thing...

If anyone has any advice on what I should do next I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance,

Eric

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mdoerner

· #3 · Mar 31, 2003

My theory.....

...try swapping the follwers out and switching them with other magazines. See if that doesn't help the situation. It is my opinion that the tolerances between the follower and the magazine body (be it plastic or metal) are too tight. Since you have so many magazines (I only have my one, and I haven't had the guts to do it myself) try filing down the sides of the follower ever so slightly, and re-assemble.

This could make your situation worse, as you are validating my theory with your practice.

Mike Doerner

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mdoerner

· #8 · Apr 1, 2003

This is the problem with the double stacked mag

pip_daddy_dog said:
can someone please measure a spring for unsprung length on a operating magazine. I am wondering if I have too much of too little spring tension.

Yup. The spring in the mag is kinda on the weenie side. In order to get the magazine that small and hold 10 rounds, the spring has to be rather weak, otherwise you wouldn't get the last couple of rounds in without denting the cartridges (or setting them off

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Ever wonder why the 597 magnum mags only hold 8? Betcha the spring is a bit stiffer too. I can understand 9 cartridges in the magnum 597 (because the dia of the magnum cases is bigger) but 8 means they're doing something else inside that mag.

Does anyone with a 597 magnum care to elaborate on a.) the spring length and b.) the gauge of the wire the spring is made of? Thanks.

Mike Doerner

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