Daisy 880 & UTG 3-9X32 Bug Buster ... Made in China ... Shooting @ 20Yds Plus - RimfireCentral.com Forums

Go Back   RimfireCentral.com Forums > >

Notices

Join Team RFC to remove these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-02-2012, 06:12 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Daisy 880 & UTG 3-9X32 Bug Buster ... Made in China ... Shooting @ 20Yds Plus



Log in to see fewer ads
Daisy Powerline 880 & Accessories - Made in China
Sometime ago, a second Daisy 880 that I had purchased for use with pellets - only.
Locked-up on me ... the result of too may strokes of compression.
A couple of days ago, I decided to disassemble the locked-up 880 and I was able to release
the compressed charge.
Now, I had a second 880 available for use.

I decided to install an old Leaper's 3-9X32 AO Bug Buster I had previously mounted on my Diana 240 Schütze.
This earlier version of the Bug Buster has very thick reticles and correspondingly
large mil-dots.
Not the best for extracting maximum accuracy ... but, OK for hunting.

Old Style Leaper's 3-9X32 AO IR Bug Buster
As you can see, it was a nice fit.

Old Style Leaper's 3-9X32 AO IR Bug Buster
One great benefit I was looking forward to ... the loading port is much more open.

By the way, this second 880 is a more updated version with six screws securing the stock.
And, the additional screws help a great deal in eliminating rifle flex.

Here is a view of my original 880 that now sports a fixed power Leaper's 4X32 AO Bug Buster.
Note, a single screw on the opposite side attaches the stock to the receiver.
There is much noticable flex between the receiver and stock.

My second 880 is set-up for use with JSB Exact 8.4gr pellets with 8-strokes of compression.
This rifle will be used on larger birds than sparrows.
And, is ZEROed at twenty yards.
However, I have a range card from 4-yards to 20-yards.

Incidently, I've not noticed much difference in accuracy from my other 880 that has
a weaver/picatinny rail adapter.
The rail adapter has increaded the rigidity of the synthetic receiver.
However, I don't think this has increased the accuracy of the rifle system.
As, I thought it would have.

Well, at least compared to my second 880 with a higher power scope and more secure
stock attachment method.
I've not been able to discern any significant difference in over-all accuracy.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 06-26-2013 at 02:40 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-11-2013, 09:14 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
ADAPTER BASE: Sun Optics USA SM7015 versus Hawke Sport Optics H17015

The adapter base I used is the Sun Optics USA SM7015 adapter base 11mm to Picatinny.

And, the adapter uses a torx head screws to clamp the side rails to the 11mm grooves
instead of conventional allen head screws.

I had some problems attaching the adapter to the receiver because the screw heads and torx driver provided
did not mate well together.
The internal screw head and torx driver tip were a loose fit.
This condition created a situation in that the amount of torque I could apply was limited
for fear of stripping the screw head or damaging the torx tip.

As such, I would not use the Sun Optics adapter base on a spring and piston air rifle.
However, on a recoiless PCP or MSP this limitation should not pose a problem.

Turns-out, the Sun Optics adapter base is a good match with the Daisy 880 composite material receiver.
As the synthetic receiver is not as strong and not nearly as rigid as the original die cast receivers of the early 880's.
An owner mounting a conversion adapter should be wary of the clamping force exerted on the grooved dovetail rail
by an adapter rail - do not overtighten.

By the way the Sun Optics adapter base SM7015 should not be confused with the Hawke Sport Optics,
3/8" or 11mm to Weaver Adaptor, Code: HM17015

The Hawke Optics uses allen-head scews that are counter-sunk into the clamp rail.
As such, this one feature would make this adapter base a better choice for a spring and piston air rifle.

Although not seen in the photo, the Sun Optics base does incorporate a recoil pin.
It is set in the root of the groove.
While the Hawke Optics recoil pin is threaded through the entire stop and into the body of the rail
as a result more threads are engaged to hold the recoil pin firmly in-place..



References:
ADAPTER BASE: Sun Optics USA SM7015 versus Hawke Sport Optics H17015 Expand Thread
Daisy .177 880 and Crosman SSP Lead-Free Alloy Pellets Expand Thread
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-06-2013 at 10:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-11-2013, 11:06 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
POSSIBLE EVIDENCE: Stiffening Receiver Enhances 880 Accuracy

Quote:
Originally Posted by aom22 View Post

Old Style Leaper's 3-9X32 AO IR Bug Buster
By the way, this second 880 is a more updated version with six screws securing the stock.
And, the additional screws help a great deal in eliminating rifle flex.

Incidentally, I've not noticed much difference in accuracy from my other 880 that has
a weaver/picatinny rail adapter.
The rail adapter has increased the rigidity of the synthetic receiver.
However, I don't think this has increased the accuracy of the rifle system.
As, I thought it would have.

Well, at least compared to my second 880 with a higher power scope and more secure
stock attachment method.
I've not been able to discern any significant difference in over-all accuracy.
In fact, with the compact off-set scope mount configuration resulted in a significantly shorter dovetail rail interface.
This might have been a factor, in not shooting any smaller group(s) to speak of.
As such, I did not keep any of the targets as evidence of any improved accuracy.

However for control puposes, I was frequently cleaning the barrel of my six-screw buttstock 880 to eliminate
fouling as a variable.
In the process of pushing a very tight patch all the way through, the strong resistance to cleaning rod movement suddenly
gave way and the cleaning jag struck the bolt probe with enough force to break-off the magnetic bolt-tip.
When this happened, I was just about to make a final ZERO adjustment on the scope for the Crosman Premier
Silhouette Field Target 7.9gr pellets I was firing.

Boy was I mad at what had just happened!
What to do now?
Well, I now had an excuse to buy another updated six-screw buttstock 880.
When I got to Wal-Mart, the airgun shelf was bare - darn it.

I came home and decided to disassemble the 880 to see if I could super-glue or epoxy the magnetic bolt tip
back into place.
In doing-so I removed the scope and scope mount as a unit.
Then, I removed only the right side of the synthetic receiver.
After super-gluing (only adhesive I had on-hand) the magnetic tip back into the receptacle in the bolt.
When the super-glue set, I reassembled the 880 and mounted the scope and shot the following group.

Leaper's UTG 3-9X32 AO IR Bug Buster
The two POIs at the left of the target (10 o'clock) were the first shots after the barrel was cleaned.
After any barrel cleaning, I expect the first few shots to be off.
Then, the next 5-shots were well within a dime.
And, the scope was effectively ZEROed without any further adjustment ... I was completely amazed.
Moreover, I was very reluctant to post this target knowing no one witnessed what had taken place and the target results.



Leaper's UTG 3-9X32 AO IR Bug Buster
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 06-05-2016 at 05:33 AM.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 02-26-2013, 11:18 AM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
JSB Match Diablo Exact 8.4gr

Well, looks like my search for the right pellet to use in my 880 is over.
Today, I shot a group that confirmed my 880 can be a useful tool for sparrow eradication
out to 20 yards.
I have been surprised by the performance of the economical JSB pellets on higher compression.

Up until today, I was operating under the presumption that 6-strokes of compression was
the most the 880 would tolerate to maintain good/useful accuracy.
Well, as Ron White might say ... I was wrong.

Yesterday, in the morning it was windy.
I decided to counter the wind with a heavier pellet and more compression as an experiment.
I fired-off a 5-shot string and, to my pleasant surprise, the resulting group was smaller.

This morning, the local winds had subsided.
As such, I broke-out the 880, set-up a target and and fired-off a 5-shot string.
The resultant group was under a dime at 20 yards.
JSB Match Diablo Exact 8.4gr
Standing Position
Forearm Supported by Hand
Support Hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20Yd

Heartened by the 20 yard performance of the JSB Exacts.
I decided to check POI at 10yds using the same compression level.
So, I fired-off a quick 5-shot group.
And, the POI at the closer distance was usable - not bad.
JSB Match Diablo Exact 8.4gr
Standing Position
Forearm Supported by Hand
Support Hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20Yd

Just got off the phone to Pyramyd Air to change a back-order I have for pellets.
I ordered an extra tin of JSB Match Diablo Exact 8.4gr and another tin of JSB Match Exact Express 7.87gr.
The Express 7.87gr pellet at 5-strokes compression have a very similar POI at the JSB Exact 8.4gr pellet
on 8-strokes compression - not bad.

Last edited by aom22; 12-02-2013 at 08:53 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-11-2013, 06:59 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
JSB Match Diabolo Exact Express 7.87gr

For the last couple of weeks, where I live has experienced almost daily winds.
While I was shooting at sparrows with my 880 at extended range - beyond 15 yards.
I was making some unexplainable misses.
So, I set a target up at 20 yards and left-off a 5-shot string.
An almost horizontal line, approximately 1 3/4 inches long, was laid-out by the POI of the pellets.
This was my problem ... the light Destroyers were wind sensitive.
Crosman Destroyer EX 7.4gr
20yd 5-Shots
Windy Conditions

I had a tin of JSB Match Diabolo Exact Express pellets left-over from some prior pellet testing.
I cleaned the barrel of the my Daisy 880 and set-down to send some pellets down range under
the windy conditions.

Sometime prior, I had tested the JSBs at 10m (33ft) and the pellets showed some promise.

Since I was testing the pellets for potential, I didn't set-up an clean target.
To my surprise, the JSBs precluded a very nice group of 8-shots.
5-shots were closely clustered together.
Under the windy conditions, I was pleasantly surprised at the results - nickel size.

In-order to ensure this group wasn't just an anomaly I shot another string.
Sure, enough, the results verified that the JSB's were bucking the wind much better
than the Destroyer EX's.
The 5-shot string felt very close to a nickel ... more than good enough for sparrows at 20 yards.
As such, I've adjusted the scope to zero the JSB's to impact about a quarter-inch low at 10m (33ft)
and impact a half-inch high at 20 yards.
This makes it easy to compensate for pellet drop over the distances I normally fire on sparrows.

Very frequently, I encounter a sparrow shot as less than 10m (33ft).
It is not uncommon for me to take shots at 7-yds to 8-yds.
By using a compression charge of 3-strokes, the pellet POI is adjusted to the very short distance(s).

Last edited by aom22; 04-26-2013 at 03:19 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-25-2013, 07:25 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
New Crosman Destroyer 7.9gr (Non-EX)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aom22 View Post
Has anyone noticed that Crosman has changed the Destroyer EX pellet design?
I took a closer look at a pellet from an left-over tin and one pellet from a new tin.
New Destroyer EX 7.9gr .... Old Destroyer EX 7.4gr

Apparently, there is a significant change in design.
But, accuracy is still good.
Well, I finally bought some of the new design Crosman Destroyer.
It's been getting harder and harder to find the original Destroyer EX pellets.
So, I thought I'd try the newest version of the Destroyer since they are heavier.
In the previous post I fired some Destroyer EX 7.4gr pellets in breezy conditions.
And, an unusable horizontal spread was the net result.

I expected the heavier 7.9gr (new) vs 7.4gr (EX) would buck the wind better.
And, the weighter Destroyer's did perform very well in still air conditions - much better
than I had expected.
Standing Position
Forearm Supported by Hand
Hand Rested on Rolled-Up Pad
New Crosman Destroyer 7.9gr
5-Shots at 20 Yards
Calm Wind Conditions


After Shooting the Group ... I Quit
I Didn't Think It Would Be Possible to Improve-On
But, this level of Destroyer accuracy comes with the tedious requirement to keep
the barrel clean ... all too frequently several patches must be run through the barrel
to remove accuracy killing deposits.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-05-2013 at 11:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-26-2013, 02:11 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Crosman Premier Super Match

I've been trying to find pellets that will be serviceable on sparrows out to 20 yards.
While zeroed at 10m (33ft).
Pellet drop compensation has to be easily manageable.
My primary method to manage pellet drop is more strokes of compression.

To this end, I've tested some Crosman Premier Super Match pellets at extended range.
However, I made certain the 880 barrel was clean prior to any shots being fired.
I need to re-verify accuracy at 10m(33ft).
Crosman Super Match 7.9gr
20 Yards
5-Strokes of Compression
After Barrel was Cleaned

The accuracy exhibited was good, just slightly over a dime.
But, not as good as I had anticipated.
I expected better ... if not very good ... accuracy from match grade wadcutters - even at 20 yards.
These are some reasonably priced pellet $8.95 for a tin containing 500 pellets - not bad.
However, at 6-strokes of compression ... accuracy begins to degrade.

I've not tested the pellets in windy conditions - yet.
Unfortunately for me, contending with wind is an almost daily fact of life where I live.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 04-27-2013 at 10:14 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-26-2013, 02:25 PM
Kestrel4k
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Jul 2011
Location: 
The Willamette Valley, in Oregon
Posts: 
2,575
TPC Rating: 
100% (13)
I don't often comment on your posts but I appreciate them, always informative. Thanks,
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-01-2013, 08:19 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
RWS Super Dome 8.3 at 20 Yards

I purchased some RWS Super Dome 8.3gr pellets primarily to try-out in my Crosman M4-177.
After my M4 experience, I decided to see what my 880 would do.
As such, I didn't fire any shots at 10-meters (33-feet) ... I went directly to 20 yards
because I don't intend to use the 8.33gr pellets at close range - 10yds or less.

Below is the first group I fired just after I had cleaned the 880 barrel.
I was firing to season the barrel with the change of pellets.
But, as the number of pellets in the group exceeded 5-shots, I continued for a full-string
of at least 10-shots ... probably less than 15-shots, but, at least 13-shots.
Standing Position
Forearm Supported by Off-Hand
Off-Hand Rested on Rolled-Up Pad
More than 10-Shots at 20 Yards, 8-Stokes of Compression
Reasonably Calm Wind Conditions

Realizing the Super Domes were performing better than I had expected, I settled-down
for a careful 5-shot string.
The first three pellets formed a cloverleaf.
I pulled the fourth pellet while the fifth pellet went into the cloverleaf.
I was duly impressed with the performance of these reasonably priced pellets.
So much, my six-screw butt-stock was quickly sighted-in with the Super Domes and will remain
the pellet of choice for my longer range 880.
Standing Position
Forearm Supported by Off-Hand
Off-Hand Rested on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20 Yards , 8-Stokes of Compression
No Noticable Wind

Included in the following are examples of various groups I shot with the Super Domes
that demonstrate the accuracy of the RWS pellets in my 880 is not a fluke.
I must repeat again, I've been very, very surprised with the performance the Super Domes
have extracted from my 880.
This was totally unexpected from such a combination of reasonably priced German pellets
and a very low-cost Chinese MSP.
Standing Position
Forearm Supported by Off-Hand
Off-Hand Rested on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20 Yards, 8-Stokes of Compression
Breezy Wind conditions
Best Group of the Day

__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-02-2013 at 05:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 05-05-2013, 10:59 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
JSB Match Diabolo Exact RS 7.33gr Pellets at 10-Meters and 20-Yards ... 6-Screw Stock

I've been meaning to try-out a lightweight domed pellet in my 6-screw 880 that I use
for longer range shoots.
Generally, I've been using 7.9gr, 8.33gr and 8.64gr domed pellets to buck the wind better.
But, I wanted to see if a how a lighter domed pellet might fare.

I set-up a fresh target as I normally do.
I prepped my 6-screw stock 880 by cleaning the barrel by running a few patches through.
Then, I fired a few seasoning shots to acclimate the barrel to the JSB RS pellets.
Now, I was ready ... with 6-strokes of compression I began firing away.
The results were not good.
Standing Position
Forearm Fully Supported on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20 Yards
6-Strokes of Compression
Unpredictable Wind Gusts

So, I cleaned the barrel - again ... three patches.
Loaded-up, intending to fire a few seasoning shots.
Instead, I decided to keep firing until I saw no shift in the forming group.
I don't know whether the reduced compression or barrel cleaning ... or both ... was
the reason for the improved grouping I was seeing.
I was just happy to see the JSB RS pellets were performing well-enough.
Standing Position
Forearm Fully Supported on Rolled-Up Pad
8-Shots at 20 Yards
5-Strokes of Compression
Unpredictable Wind Gusts

With renewed confidence, I decided to fire another group with a lesser charge of air.
With only 4-strokes of compression ... I selected a new dot to shoot at.
The first shot impacted at the 7:00 o'clock position ... the next two shots weren't even close.
Shots #2 and #3 were way-off to the right - approximately at 3:00 o'clock and 5:00 o'clock.
I stopped shooting and cleaned the barrel for the third-time and continued shooting at
the same dot.
Shoots #4, #5, #6 and #7 formed a single large hole starting at the 1 o'clock position.
The net results of the final barrel cleaning were very satisfying in-deed.
Standing Position
Forearm Fully Supported on Rolled-Up Pad
7-Shots at 20 Yards
4-Strokes of Compression
Unpredictable Wind Gusts

And, very much mimicked the performance mirrored by the JSB RS performance in my Diana 240.
This finding may simplify my pellet inventory by default ... seems Crosman is no-longer producing
the 7.4gr Destroyer EX pellets that my Daisy 880 and Diana Mod. 240 preferred at short-range.
But, the EX pellets performed poorly at 20-yards in breezy wind conditions.
That is until now ... the JSB Match Diabolo Exact RS 7.33gr might replace the Destroyer EX for me.

By the way, on the final target, I quit shooting after I got 5-shots way-under-a-dime.
I didn't want to risk busting the group ... especially considering the gusty wind conditions.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-05-2013 at 11:39 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-23-2013, 08:20 PM
Mossbergman
NRA Member - Click Here To Join! GOA Member

Join Date: 
Mar 2004
Location: 
Hollow log along the Susquehanna River, Dauphin County Pa.
Posts: 
11,111
TPC Rating: 
88% (7)
I've noticed Crossman pellets vary a lot from one tin to the next. One tin of destroyers were awesome the next tin was crap . If ya get some good one try to get the same lot # if that possible with pellets ~~JMJ~~
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-30-2013, 10:24 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Recovered Eurasian Collared Dove Shoot at 20 Yards

This is the first Eurasian collared dove I've shot in the alley way of our home that I've been able to recover in-tact.
Normally, when I hit a bird the the alley, there are cats waiting to collect the fallen avian.
Today was different.

As soon as I fired the shot, I put the 880 down on the ground and went running to recover the bird.
For some reason, I didn't observe any alerted cats.
They were laying-around and became wary of my activity.
But, they didn't see the bird.

The shot was not easy, as the bird was posted on top of a telephone pole.
From my vantage point, all I could see clearly was the upper one-third of the dove as it perched.
However, very once-in-a-while it's head would bob-up and I could get a better look at the bird.
I made this observation as I was adjusting the scope objective lens (AO) to minimize parallax.
With the scope adjusted, the AO indicated 20 plus yards.

Measured linear distance to the pole from my firing position was a 20-yds and 2-ft.
This did not include the offset distance into my backyard and the height of the pole.
The distance of the as-the-crow-flies shot was longer.
If you take a look at the close-up photo of the telephone pole, you'll see a split or notch in the middle of the post.
This notch/split gave me a slightly better view of the center-mass of the bird.
This is what I aimed for.
Knowing full-well, if I shot under, the pellet would embed itself in the pole.
If the pellet was accurately placed, the projectile would strike the dove squarely center-mass.

Note the black band around the back of the neck.
This is a distinguishing feature of a collared Eurasian dove.
After fighting the very heavy 880 trigger, the shot went-off.
I heard the thawp of the pellet impacting the dove.
And, the bird rolled-over and tumbled down ... without a flap of the wings.

A couple of days later (like in today) I had a chance for a simliar shot on the same pole.
The Daisy 880 performed just as well and scored another good hit.
However, this time the bird was flapping it wings - the felines may have taken notice.
I put the 880 on the ground and ran to recover the bird.
This is what I found ... just a few feathers - the cats beat me to the dove.

__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 09-02-2013 at 10:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-31-2013, 01:37 AM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Recoverd Dove Shot at 27 Yards

Shortly after I shot the collared Eurasian dove that the cats beat me to.
I had another shot at a dove present itself.
But in the opposite direction ... to the West ... on the other side of my yard.

As I moved into position for a shot, I noticed the bird became wary and fidgety.
It, clearly, was aware of my movements.
From past experience, I knew I didn't have much time left before the dove would fly away.

So, I moved to the nearest spot where I could brace my off-hand against.
This was a clothes-line post.
Quickly, I steadied myself for the shot from a standing position with my off-hand arm brushing the
clothes-line post for steadiness.
In the right photo below, the blurry white vertical object is the clothesline pole that helped stabilize my off-hand.
In the photo below, the diamond depicts were the dove was perched - on the lower wires
of the telephone pole.

The collared Eurasian dove sitting at the top of the telephone pole is over 30-yards away
from the nearest fence line of my yard.
From my shooting position, the shot would have be approximately over 33-yards
This shot was further than the shot I had taken a few minutes earlier.
I wanted to adjust the objective lens (AO).
But, the dove was becoming more aware I was looking it's way.
As a consequence, it was apparent to me, the bird was ready to depart.
This being the situation, I wasn't going to mess with the AO - no time ... dove wasn't gonna wait.

However, the image was reasonably clear and I had a good idea what the hold-over should be
approximately 2 1/2 Mil-dots.
So I aligned the reticle so the bird was bracketed center-mass between -2 and -3 Mil-dots.
With the center-mass aim-point established, I began the concerted effort to work the heavy 880 trigger.

The trigger broke just I had anticipated.
I heard the pellet hit the dove with a smack ... the dove tumbled down flapping it wings in-effectively.
I couldn see the bird hit the ground because the 6-foot privacy fence blocked the view.

I hurriedly grounded the 880 in the grass, existed the yard and ran-down the alley
to where I thought the dove had hit the ground.
And, there the bird was ... not moving at all with feathers ruffled around it's back where the pellet
hit center-mass.

I had the presence of mind to have my camera with me and took a few photos before retrieving the bird.
Shortly thereafter, I got the tape measure and laid-out the shot at 27-yards.


Reference: 2nd Collared Eurasian Dove ... No Effort Made by Me to Display Black-Band
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 09-02-2013 at 09:29 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-31-2013, 12:28 PM
alum572's Avatar
alum572 is online now
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Jul 2010
Location: 
Gopher state
Posts: 
4,542
TPC Rating: 
100% (44)
My old 880 will shoot well, too. However, I find it very difficult to load pellets into the chamber with a scope attached. It's hard enough to do w/o a scope and big fingers.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-02-2013, 03:27 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Opening-Up 880 Loading Port with Scope Mounted

Quote:
Originally Posted by alum572 View Post
... I find it very difficult to load pellets into the chamber with a scope attached.
It's hard enough to do w/o a scope and big fingers.
A set-up like this might work for you.
Really opens-up the loading port if you mount a scope.

Quote:
Originally Posted by aom22 View Post
Old Style Leaper's 3-9X32 AO IR Bug Buster
One great benefit I was looking forward to ... the loading port is much more open.

With a compact scope set at maximum-power the rear off-set works OK.
Considering, eye relief is reduced ... as magnification increases.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 09-02-2013 at 05:06 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:20 PM.

Privacy Policy

DMCA Notice

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ©2000-2018 RimfireCentral.com
x