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Old 02-16-2013, 10:52 PM
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Raptor Pillar and Rear Tang Bedding Pic Heavy



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So, I decided to start a new thread and take pics all the way through my bedding process. I did not take pics as I was inletting for the pillars, but the process is simple. Start by removing the existing escutcheon. Then drill a pass thru hole, 7/16". If you plan on using the existing escutcheon, drill down to it carefully with a 7/16" Forstner bit in a drill press. Yes, Folks, I finally bought one, a Ryobi table top model.
Then inlet for the wider portion of the pillar flange, which uses the pillar from a Watts 683-A Flange fitting. Doing so requires a 7/8" Forstner bit. There is a step down on the pillar, which is inletted with e 5/8" Forstner. On this stock, I decided to use a double pillar method, with a 1/4-20 cap screw, which will be recessed into the lower escutcheon- the recess is done with a 7/16" 4 flute end mill bit. Azguy made some to order for me to get me started, and I ordered the bits to do my own.

The pillar flange diagram, compliments of Azguy (Thanks George!!!)



The lower escutcheon:



The Pillar- 2 Pieces:





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Old 02-16-2013, 10:57 PM
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Inletting of the Upper Pillar, Takedown area











More to come; up next- Inletting of the Lower escutcheon, followed by Inletting for the Rear Tang.

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Old 02-16-2013, 11:18 PM
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Lower Escutcheon Inletting







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Old 02-16-2013, 11:26 PM
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Rear Tang Inletting

Well, this one posed an interesting challenge. The pistol grip on the Raptor stock has a very large screw running through it- a strength augmenting technique known as "pinning the wrist". The screw has a square drive socket and was 4" long.
I removed it, drilled and countersunk the hole deeper, and shortened the screw by 1/2" to get it out of the way of the Kidd rear tang escutcheon that is on the Ruger receiver going into this build. This one is for my son- he chose the stock.
Here are the particulars of the build:

PWS Raptor Stock, in Blue LaminatePillar & Devcon bedded
Ruger OEM Receiver w Kidd rear tang
Kidd Scalloped silver bolt
Kidd charging rod & spring
Kidd single stage @ 1.5#
GM 20" Fluted taper barrel, floated
Tactical Inc M22/50 compensator
Offhand scope:
Nikon Monarch 3-9X40 BDC scope w/Burris QD rings
Bench Scope:
Mueller 8.5-25x44AO Tactical scope on Burris QD rings, low









As per my usual practice, the Devocn will be 1/8" thick surrounding the rear tang.

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Old 02-17-2013, 12:07 AM
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DrG- Do you have enuf space under the spindle for a cross-slide vise or table & mill vise to go with that Ryobi?
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Nice clean work DrGunner. Looks Like you are liking that new drill press. I'm sure it made things easier for you. My buddy just gave me a small 10" press they really help with the inletting. I will be following this one.

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Old 02-17-2013, 12:27 AM
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DrG- Do you have enuf space under the spindle for a cross-slide vise or table & mill vise to go with that Ryobi?
Yes, I ordered a cross slide last night. All I had on hand when I did this was a simple $20 Home Depot drill press vise. When I get the cross slide, I'm going to make high sided inserts for the jaws out of solid oak, and line them with heavy leather to make a stock holder out of it...

Then I should be able to use end mill bits and Forstners to plunge cut and true up rear tangs...

I'm also going to use a 7/16" 4 flute end mill to remove the Ruger escutcheons from my stocks, then retrofit them with this lower pillar escutcheon and 1/4-20 button head cap screws. You would not believe how solid this system is, George. I put this action in the stock with a cap screw- no bedding, no rear tang, and its every bit as solid as my 'tanged rifles, with the screw lightly snugged.
No wiggle on the receiver.... Think about the surface area involved to spread the load. And this is a free float stock, the barrel makes no contact anywhere.

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Old 02-17-2013, 12:32 AM
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Nice clean work DrGunner. Looks Like you are liking that new drill press. I'm sure it made things easier for you. My buddy just gave me a small 10" press they really help with the inletting. I will be following this one.

Greg
Easier is an understatement!!! I did the inletting for the pillar, top and bottom, in a couple of hours. One night in the shop and I had all the inletting done, front and back. Before- with only my drill and dremel, that would have taken me two or three 4 hour sessions!!!!

I can't believe I've been handicapping myself for so long. Not that I don't enjoy the work; its the hobby aspect of this stuff that I love so much, but seriously- I should have had a drill press decades ago...

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Looks like you're doing an amazing job once again Doc! Your skill at this aspect of 10/22 building is really impressive!!

I'm looking forward to seeing this one all finished up
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Doc, did you get the vise from the link I sent you?
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The 2 peice pillar is very nice. Very interesting. Looking forward to more.

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Doc, did you get the vise from the link I sent you?
Yes, I did- and Thank you. I ordered something similar last night. Should have it along with end mill bits this week

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Old 02-17-2013, 01:43 PM
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Dr.G,

Does the top escutcheon stand slightly proud of the stock material?
Will there be Devcon in the area of the forward attachment screw?

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Dr.G,

Does the top escutcheon stand slightly proud of the stock material?
Will there be Devcon in the area of the forward attachment screw?

Bill
Yes, the front pillar is .015-.020" proud under the TD area.
Yes, the pillar will be bedded in place with Devcon, top and bottom- the inletting allows for some space under each flange. Because the flanges have a 2 step configuration, the inletting under the 5/8" portion has some room. Plus, the hole for the pillar is 7/16", allowing for a full circumferential layer of mud the length of the pillar. There will also be a locking ring for each half of the pillar cut into the OD of the straight pillar portion of the stock- I cut the rings last night, and will post pics here before bedding.

I also have a little work to do truing up the rear tang inletting, I used a dremel only and its only roughed. I plan on using the drill press and cross slide vise to clean it up and true the sides before bedding the rear tang.

Work is on hold until I get the lower escutcheons from Azguy, and the 4 flute bits and vise- all should arrive on Tuesday....

But I have to build a pinewood derby car with my son Wed, Thurs, and Friday so the final work on this won't be complete until next weekend or the week after...

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Old 02-18-2013, 05:57 PM
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Tag. I want to see your vices when you have both in please.
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