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Old 02-06-2013, 01:47 AM
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Backyard Air Rifle Shooter ... You - Too? What's Going-On With Your Air Rifle



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The last couple days I've been shooting my Daisy 880 almost exclusively - to the determent
of all of my other airguns.
Why you ask? Because since mounting a Leaper's UTG 4X32 CQB Bug Buster AO on
and a Sun Optics USA SM7015 adapter base 11mm to Picatinny on my 880 ... this Daisy
has been transformed.
The 880 now holds zero reliably and is more consistently accurate with inexpensive Crosman
Destroyer EX pellets - the 7.4gr ones found at Wal-Mart.

There are other techniques that I've learned for loading and stroking the compression charge
that have helped minimize unexplained flyers and, generally, enhance accuracy.
As such, the accumulated effect has been the make the 880 plain fun to shoot.

Today, while defending the birdfeeder, I decided to attempt a couple of longer shots with the 880
that I would normally reserve one of my other air rifles.

The raiding sparrows that normally draw the attention of my 880 or Diana 240 have learned
the safe stand-off range for these rifles.
As such, they maintain a distance from the bird feeder until they think the coast is clear.

Well, things were different ... I estimated the range to be fifteen to seventeen yards away.
And, targeted a sparrow that was perched bolt-upright.
This way, I had some tolerance for pellet drop and rifle hold-over.
But, only about three quarters of an inch horizontal latitude for a good hit.
I steadied myself against a patio roof support and held a center mass POA.
After, the shot went-off, I saw the sparrow tumble down like a dropped hacky sack - a very satisfying shot.

Over the course of the day, I made several more shots at sparrows that were standing-off in a clump
of trees in the alley behind my property.
Solid hits and the tagged sparrows seemed dead before they hit the ground.
I ran-over to were the sparrow had fallen and observed no immediate signs of life or going through
death throes - good clean kills.
Before I could retrieve the dead birds ... the alley cats, as usual, beat me to the sparrows.
I was happy to see my kill was going to good use ... being recycled by the local felines.

The experience with my Daisy 880 have prompted me to consider buying a Daisy Poweline 22SG
for shooting Eurasian collard dove that compete with my house finches for grain that has fallen
to the ground under my bird feeders.

I normally use a .177 BSA Lighting XL for birds larger than sparrows.
But, the XL is always cased when not in use.
As such, it is not fast to get into action on an impromptu basis.
My Daisy 880 is always at the ready ... so would a Poweline 22SG - if I owned one.
I don't give my 880 any special attention, she stays propped-up against the nearest wall when not in use.
When an unexpected sparrow shot arises ... I grab, load, stroke and take a shot - quick and convenient.
Then, back against the wall the 880 goes ... until next time.
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:07 AM
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I eliminate rodents all the time in my backyard.

I live on a canyon and have ample targets i.e. Palm Rats, Ground Squirrels, and Gophers.

I will not shoot the Skunks, Foxes, Coyotes, Racoons, Possums etc. because I consider my Sheridan a bit light for one and because they feed on the same animals I shoot plus I've never seen them in our garden.

There is game enough for me and the predators.

Spring is coming and the rodent population is a renewal resource.
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Old 02-06-2013, 08:50 AM
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I have also downsized somewhat! My Diana model34 and 350 Mag have seen more safe time since I got the Little Air Venturia Bronco and put a Leapers 4x scope on it! It shoots the Wally Crosman pellets just fine and for plinking and small birds it is great! I have a spoon cradle hanging at 58 yds, MSD with a range finder, that if I do my part I can ping more than I miss! The wife and I , on warm days throw a can off the back deck and bounce it all over the yard with the Crosman 2400KT's we have and the Crosman 2240 , in pistol form is doing it's part to keep the can Population from expanding! Sure is Fun to sling Lead , without having to drive twenty mile!
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Old 02-06-2013, 06:51 PM
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It's always good to rotate the forgotten guns back in to use. I think I'd prefer my M4-177 over an 880, but I'm a Crosman maniac. So when I need a little more power, I opt for the Airmaster 77. My house is surrounded by neighbors on all four sides, so I mostly shoot in my basement these days. But, the exception is for pests -red squirrels, chippers, and greys.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:54 PM
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This is our frontyard,
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Crosman M417/M4-177 vs Daisy 880 ... 880 More Handy

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It's always good to rotate the forgotten guns back in to use.
I think I'd prefer my M4-177 over an 880, but I'm a Crosman maniac.
BerkshireHunter, I perfer my scoped M4-177 too.
The clip function of the M4-177 is the primary reason.
But, the 880 is more handy ... always propped against the wall or in a corner
in the utility/laundry room of our home.
When, I'm at home, the window is always open for a quick shoot at raiding sparrows.
My M4-177 is usually stored in closet to avoid dust.
As such, my M4-177 is less handy.
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Old 02-07-2013, 02:18 PM
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Yup, I sure am! I have a new toy for this year, .177 Marauder with a Hill pump! BIG gun, but I like it. The Hill pump is smooth as buttah!
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Diasy 880 and Crosman Destroyer EX Pellets at 20 Yards

Spent part of the afternoon defending the birdfeeder - again.
Once again, I tried some longer shots with the 880 at sparrows about 20yds away - missed.
A little closer, 15yds I was connecting with regularity - the alley cat ate well.

I was trying to establish zero at different strokes of power and found-out with four strokes of compression
worked fine at the range of 20 yards.
So, I continued shooting at twenty yards.
My 880 with Destroyer EX pellets was just a quarter-of-an-inch high at twenty yards.
The group size was about the size of a quarter - not good.

I tried three stokes to bring the POI lower ... then, something odd happened.
The POI of the pellets spread-out drastically ... about the size of a baseball - pretty bad.
This explained why I was missing beyond fifteen yards on 3-stokes of compression.

So, what did I learn?
The realistic limit for my 880 with Destroyer EX pellets on 3-strokes of compression is fifteen to seventeen yards.
Maybe twenty yards on 4-strokes of compression.
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:05 AM
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Love to shoot in the backyard. Fun for the kids too, teaches them safety and fundamentals. We're always trying for fun reactive targets. Good ones are an apple on a stick stuck in the ground, rolls of caps wrapped up and taped on a piece of wood, cans (of course), big chunks of ice (quart milk containers in the freezer), etc.

I prefer .22's, the Co2's are the most accurate, but less powered, and a good magnum nitro-piston break barrel (Benjamin Trail) will give a fun afternoon of shooting.
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Old 02-09-2013, 07:44 AM
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I shoot "tree rats" and crows from my back deck. "Death Cry of a Crow" recording brings them in from miles away.
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This is how I would like to launch my Gophers into the afterlife.

http://www.backyardartillery.com/10201
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Old 02-09-2013, 08:27 PM
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Backyard Artillery ... Air Powered?

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This is how I would like to launch my Gophers into the afterlife.

http://www.backyardartillery.com/10201
Is that piece of equipment ... air powered?
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Is that piece of equipment ... air powered?
Nope, it's not air powered.

It's a sling at the end of a pole that when the weight is dropped it could launch a Gopher, I figure, anywhere from 150' to 200'. That's beyond my property line.

The more weight you use the further the Trebuchet throws.

Heck, I may pitch Gophers to the Red Tailed Hawks.
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Old 02-09-2013, 09:19 PM
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Shooting in the Wind

For the last couple of days the wind has been blowing incessantly.
Other than the wind, the weather has been nice.
So, I broke-out the Daisy 880 to see how much the wind would effect the little Crosman Destroyer EX pellet at 20yds.

The results with 4-strokes of compression, I had a horizontal string of nearly two-inches left/right from POA.
the vertical spread was nearly a nickel.
I increased compression to 6-stokes, the horizontal spread decreased to an inch and a half left/right of POA.
However, the vertical spread was nearly a quarter.

Anyway, until the wind speed drops ... no more shooting beyond 12yds with my 880.
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powder monkey ... What Air Rifle(s) Using on Gophers

What air rifles are you using on your backyard pests?
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