My Diana 240 Schütze ... Tuned by John in PA - RimfireCentral.com Forums

Go Back   RimfireCentral.com Forums > >

Notices

Join Team RFC to remove these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 01-27-2012, 02:58 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
My Diana 240 Schütze ... Tuned by John in PA



Log in to see fewer ads
This is my Diana 240 Schütze.
Originally, it was intended for the wife of air rifle tuner John in PA.
However, his wife coveted John's recently customized Crosman pistol/carbine.
So, this little airgun didn't have a home.
After a few emails and some requested changes ... she became mine.

This little Classic had been tuned with John's wife in-mind.
The shot-cycle is smooth, gentle and, as a result, quiet.
The T05 trigger had been set at 1-lb.
Too light for a hunting rifle - I felt.
So, John adjusted the trigger for a 2-lb let-off ... that is just right for me.

Moreover, I requested a Leaper's UTG Bug Buster 3-9X40AO IR with a Leaper's off-set mount to be installed.
In hindsight, because of the proportions of the 240, a full-sized scope might have been more suitable.
That is, if I could find one that would close/minimum focus to 3 yds like a Bug Buster.

My 240 will be used to quietly, discreetly, defend my backyard bird feeder.
To this end, the Schütze is perfectly capable.
I need just enough power to dispatch a sparrow at less than 20 yards.
A typical shot will be between 10 to 13 yards.

And, I don't need over penetration either.
With a Falcon 7.3gr pellet traveling at 500 fps about 4 ft/lbs of energy are available to take care of the task.
As some of you have already surmised, the Classic has been slightly de-tuned from a factory claimed 5.53-ft/lbs (7.5 Joules).
As such, in it's present state of tune ... she's perfect - for me.

Reference: 12-Meter Sparrow Medicine ... Diana 240 Schütze
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 01-27-2012, 02:58 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Shooting My Schütze

26 Jan 2012, I picked-up my Schütze late this afternoon.
Just had a little time to set a rough zero with the Leapers UTG Bug Buster 3-9x40 AO.
Take a look at the posted note targets that were set 13 yards away.
At the distance I will be defending the bird feeder.

Scope Zeroing Groups at 13yds
H&N Sport .177 FTS 8.64gr
The first group was shot in the standing, off-hand, position with the black dot as the aim point.
It was a quick effort to find where the rifle was hitting.
With the first group, I only let-off four pellets.
I was somewhat disappointed with the group size.
Actually, I was in a bit of a panic ... I couldn't believe the scatter of the group.

I clicked the elevation and windage adjustments to correct zero.
All the while, telling myself to calm-down, use the artillery hold, catch my breath and control my breathing
as I squeezed the trigger.
Then, I fired a second group at a slower pace.
It worked ... this group came-in under a dime - as it should have.

I clicked some more correction and shot a third group of seven-shots.
Why seven shots?
As you can see in the third group, the upper-two touching shots indicated more correction was needed.
I quickly clicked the controls some more.
Then, I finished a string of five follow-up shots ... again, all under a dime.

Not bad, I was thinking considering I was not shooting off a bench.
In fact, I had placed myself and shot from the most likely scenario the Schütze will be used in.
I'm confident, with practice, the groups are certain to improve.
As such, I'm satisfied the 240 will get the job of defending the bird feeder done - even
with a 60 year old shooter at the trigger.
Without a doubt, my Schütze is much more capable than I am.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-27-2012, 05:46 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Diana 240 Schütze vs Weihrauch HW25L

Initially, I had decided to buy a Weihrauch HW25L for close-in bird feeder defense.
I also intended to use the HW25L against tarantula hawks.

But, I had some concerns about the HW25L.
First, it is too small - really intended for kids.
And, second, was the trigger - it is not a Rekord unit.

With the combination of stock that was too short and a non-adjustable trigger that is too heavy
to suit adult preferences.
I was a bit hesitant to fully commit to an air rifle that would need stock work just to fit.
And, a trigger tune to reduce a pull that was more than the weight of the complete rifle.
Quote:
HW25L . Overall Length: 37.00" Barrel Length: 15.25" Length of Pull: 13" Weight: 4.4lbs

Schütze Overall Length: 41.0" Barrel Length: 16.50" Length of Pull: 14" Weight: 5.7lbs

HW30S . Overall Length: 38.78" Barrel Length: 15.50" Length of Pull: 13" Weight: 5.5lbs
So, I did a little research on the RWS/Diana Schütze.
And, found it was more proportioned for an adult than a child.
In comparison, the HW25L seems like a miniature air gun.
By the way, the 240 is also larger than an HW30S ... longer and heavier.
More suited for a small framed adult such as myself - 5 feet, 6 inches,
Quote:
The total length is just 40 inches, yet the pull is an adult-sized 14.25-inches.
It will feel like a lightweight carbine in adult hands.
But, the final determinate factor was the adjustable T05 trigger.
John in PA had the 240 trigger adjusted down to 1 lb.
He was able to increase the weight to 2 lbs with the turn of a screw.
The same could not be said of the HW25L.

After a little looking around, I came across the Schütze John in Pa had for sale.
A professionally tuned 240 ... for less than the cost of a new HW25L.
Deciding to buy the 240 was a no brainer.
So, here I am with my Schütze.

As I mentioned earlier, also I intend to use the 240 on insects - in particular tarantula hawks.
These orange-winged arachnid hunters carry a very potent 1/4-inch stinger.
My wife is allergic to some common insect bites.
As such, being stung by a tarantula hawk could induce an episode of anaphylactic shock.

When these aggressive insects fly in to scout in our yard.
I'm usually prepared to try to take a shot at them ... if, they come to near my wife or dogs.
However, my Daisy Red Ryder and 880 were not up to the precision needed to dispatch these bold flyers.
I think the 240 with a Bug Buster scope will be up to the task.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 01-29-2012, 07:30 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Re-Zero Scope

I had to re-zero my scope after I moved it a little further back.
Actually, as far back as possible.
The long length-of-pull places my head further back than I would like.
To better accommodate me, the compact scope and off-set mount
had to be re-positioned as far back as the receiver grooves would allow.
The new locations works better for me.

I've already had a couple of tins of Crosman Premier Lites 7.9gr that I used in my Daisy 880.
I shot a few to check whether the point-of-impact was similar.
It is very close.
The Premiers print about 3/32's above the H&N Sport FTS 8.64gr.

The CPL's are round heads and do not cut the target well.
Also, the tablet paper used as target material was not sitting flat against the pellet stop surface.
There are actually 7-pellets inside the outline of a dime.

This group is not indicative of the pellet accuracy in my Schütze.
I sent these pellets down range in a hurry.
I wasn't shooting for accuracy ... just wanted to establish a group center.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-02-2012, 12:16 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Leaper's Bug Buster Scope and Off-Set Mount

For the last few days, I've been using my Schütze on a daily basis.
As such, the Leaper's Bug Buster 5th GEN 3-9x40 AO Mil-Dot Illuminated Reticle gets a lot of use.

The scope is mounted on Airgun/.22 Bi-directional Offset 1" Ring Mount.
Quote:
Designed to provide an offset from the base to give extra compensation distance
to the eye relief in addition to what the mounting rail allows normally.
This is a high-mount ... higher than I really need or want.
But, it was the only off-set mount available from Leaper's.
The off-set is required because of the length-of-pull of the Schütze places my eye
farther back from the scope than I would like.
Coupled with the compactness of the scope a mount that would place the scope
as far aft as possible was required.
The scope/mount combo work ... but, a little high.

The illuminated reticle feature is a nice capability - Red (night) & Green (day).
I don't use the illumination much ... but, it is nice to have available as needed.

I've also added the 2-inch shade - sometimes the sunlight is too bright.
The Bug Buster came with flip-up scope caps.
With the extended shade, the front scope cap did not fit tightly.
And, required electrical tape to take-up the slack for the scope cap circumference to grip.

Sighting-in the scope was not easy.
The windage and elevation click adjustments are inconsistent.
Sometimes the clicks are clear, distinct, and certain.
And, at other times, especially the windage ... not so positive.

There were a few times I clicked the windage and noted no change of POI.
Until three shoots later ... the POI would shift.
Also, as I replaced the turret caps while I was firmly securing the caps,
I thought I hear/felt the windage knob click a few times.
Yesterday, while re-zeroing I was very careful with replacing the turret caps
to avoid disturbing the control knobs.

I'm not sure whether I will keep the Bug Buster on my 240.
Keeping zero has been a problem ... unless, my springer technique is the real culprit.
Today, first thing when it gets good and bright, I'm going to re-check zero.
I sure hope zero has not shifted - went through a lot of lead yesterday.

02 Jan 2012/1226H: Just finished a shooting session with my Schütze.
At first I wasn't happy ... the Crosman Premier Lites 7.9gr pointed head pellets
were not printing as well as I would like.
Probably OK for a kid to plink with ... not quite good enough for sparrows at 12 yards.
I continued with the CPL's to check zero ... OK.
Also tried Crosman Premier Hollow Points and Crosman SSP ... not good.

By this time, I was in near panic mode.
I reverted back to the Beeman H&N Sport FTS 8.64gr - all became well.
With the exception of the called flyer ... four-shots under a dime, nearly all touching.

Shucks, I have four tins of Crosman Premier Hollow Points that my Schütze doesn't like at all.
Hmmmm - may be, I can use them for warm-up shots ... for the rest of my life.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-04-2012, 12:09 AM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Springer Technique ... Thumb Position Matters

I was shooting my Schütze and VORTEK tuned .25 caliber Diana M48.
From a standing position at a window sill in my utility room.
The mark was an improvised posted note target 12.5 yards away.
My left-hand was supporting the rifle forearm as my left arm touching the window sill
for additional steadiness.

I had fired about 3-shots when I unconsciously shifted the thumb on my right hand.
The flyer was the net result.
For the remaining shots, I became cognizant to keep my right thumb near the safety
or barely touching the safety.
The remaining shots went true.

I couldn't believe that thumb placement made such difference.
So, on another target, I experimented with thumb placement and POI shift.
Moving my right-hand thumb from a resting position near the safety to full straddle
to the left-side of pistol grip for a more conventional hold caused a shift in POI.
Moving my thumb back to rest near the safety ... shifted the POI back.
I was amazed ... still am.

Reference: Thumb Control: Improved Grouping ... Neutral-C Trigger Pull Expand Thread - A.O. Martinez on Feb 8, 2012, 7:58 PM
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-08-2012, 02:28 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
The Right Pellet ... Not Necessarily Expensive

I went to Wal-Mart the other day for some .22 caliber pellets.
Well, I didn't exactly find what I was looking for.

In the process, I did buy some .177 Crosman Premier Hollow Points 7.9gr.
Moreover, I bought some Crosman Destroyer EX 7.4gr and All Purpose Hunting pellets 7.4gr.
I didn't have much confidence in some three dollar tins of not-Premier pellets.

But, I was desperate.
I only had half a tin of the H&N Sport FTS 8.64gr that came with Schütze.
As such, I didn't shoot any Destroyers until a couple of days ago.
And, as Ron White might say ... I was wrong ... concerning the anticipated accuracy.
Crosman Destroyer EX 7.4gr

I've been shooting the Destroyer EX's for the past few days at sparrows.
And, I've been satisfied with their performance.
I even accidently loaded one EX pellet backward ... still connected with
the birdfeeder marauding sparrow.
Crosman All-Purpose Pointed 7.4gr
Four-Shots ... all touching
2-Clicks Left ... then, Two-Shots


Needless to say, I'm flabbergasted at the performance of these cheap pellets.
I almost feel foolish for ordering some near nine dollar tins of Euro brand pellets.

I'm also wondering if Mein Schütze prefers lighter pellets ... Hmmmm.

Anyway, on my next trip to Wal-Mart ... I'm going to empty the shelf
of both types of Crosman pellets.

Reference: The Right Pellet: Not Necessarily the Most Expensive ... Not Always from Europe Expand Thread - A.O. Martinez on Feb 8, 2012, 3:47 PM
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-10-2012, 07:22 PM
JOE PA
NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Join Date: 
Feb 2011
Location: 
Pennsylvania
Posts: 
440
TPC Rating: 
100% (2)
Question Contact info?

Do you have any contact info for John in PA? Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 05-02-2012, 05:58 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
DIANA 240 Schütze: Check Zero

BSA Lightning XL .177: Check Zero ... One Lucky Shot
Well, after the shot with my BSA Lightning XL .177 ... I was feeling cocky.
I decided to check zero on my Diana 240 Schütze.
So, after a one warm-up shot ... I put a pellet on paper.
Pellet Stop Range: 12.5 yards


Standing Off-Hand Position
NOTE: Pink Disk is Smaller than a Dime


Needless to say, I wasn't exactly surprised ... came close.
I continued to shoot ... trying-out a different brand of pellets.
Without much thought, I've gone back to shooting Crosman Destroyer EX pellets.

Reference:
My DIANA 240 Schütze: Check Zero Expand Thread - A.O. Martinez on May 2, 2012, 5:58 PM
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-02-2012, 09:53 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Mein Schütze at WorK

Mein Schütze (aka: Diana Model 240 Classic) at work defending the birdfeeder.
NOTE: Can't See a Single House Finch ... Nothing but Sparrows, This is a Major Problem

By the Way, there is a well camouflaged Inca dove in front of the ground feeding station.
The Inca dove by virtue of their larger size, are not intimidated by the sparrows.
A few days ago, I had to restart my role as bird feeder defender after laying-off for a few weeks.
I noticed the number of house finches visiting the birdfeeders in my backyard had declined significantly.
I was wondering why, when the answer to my question became clearly evident.
My birdfeeders were ... again ... being mobbed by sparrows (aka: hosp).

English sparrows are aggressive and bold, on the other hand, house finches are gentler, friendier
and almost docile in comparision
As such, house finches haven't a chance against a raiding party of hungry determined sparrows.
So, I had to step-in using my Diana 240 Classic as the equalizer.
And, Mein Schütze has proven to be very effective in the role I purchased the little rifle for.

The photo is evidence of net result of several hours of taking casual shoots at birdfeeder raiding sparrows.
In between performing my usual chores and preparing for the next day of work.
When I spotted a sparrow attempting to displace/bully a feeding house finch,
the hostile sparrow was culled-out with a 7.4gr Crosman Destroyer EX directed at center mass.

The Schütze provided sufficient precision with a low likelihood of over penetration.
Over penetrating a sprarrow ... you ask?!?!?!
Yes, the shooting environment is packed with friendlies and foes closely situated.
A pellet passing through a targeted sparrow could strike an unnoticed house finch situated
further downrange behind some grass or brush leaves.

Moreover, target recognition can be a serious problem because from behind the sparrows and house finches
look so much alike.
At 10-meters, my Model 240 Classic, topped with a telescope sight with an adjustable objective,
has proven itself to be the near perfect foil.
Quiet, accurate, light-weight, always at-the-ready and, with a disciplined hold, not difficult to shoot with reasonable precision.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-24-2012, 09:18 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Cool Weather Cold Shot

This morning I was preparing to fire a cold shot from my Hatsan 125 Sniper to check POI deviation for the first shot of the day.
The temperature last night had dipped to 40DegF.
The area where I keep airguns I normally shoot on a day-to-day basis had cooled-off to 50DegF.
As such, my Schütze was cool too.

I had decided to warm myself-up before shooting my H125S by firing a few practice groups with the D240.
Also, I was very curious to see what effect the 50DegF conditions would have on the POA of the D240.
So, I set-up to shoot at 10 meters.
Standing Position Field Hold
Forearm Support by Hand
Support Hand Touching Rolled-Up Support Pad
Crosman Destroyer EX 7.4gr
10-Shot Strings at 10M/33ft

The first shot/cold shot was about three-quarters of an inch low.
I continued shooting to see if the POI would shift back to ZERO.

After the initial 10-shot string, I started another 10-shot string.
By now, Mein Schütze had warmed-up sufficiently and ZERO had returned.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-02-2012, 07:01 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Rescoped My 240

I decided to rescope my Diana 240.
UTG 1" 3-9X50 AO RGB Mil-dot
Zero Lock/Reset Scope w/Rings & Sunshade
Item No.: SCP-U395AORGW

The early version of the Leaper's Bug Buster I originally mounted did not have the ability to set ZERO.
Moreover, I wanted to gain some additional heft to help me steady the light Schütze.
And lastly, I wanted the eyepiece of whatever scope I mounted to be closer to my eye.
A full-size scope would help accomplish some of these goals better than a compact scope.

My full-size Diana 48 and Hatsan 125 Sniper have taught me to appreciate the advantages
of a heavy spring and piston air rifle.
When it comes to holding a steady-shot and the follow-through needed for accuracy with a springer.

The ability to zero-out the turret caps have been a tangible asset.
Especially when trying-out different pellets.
The ability to set-zero with another style or brand of pellets and be able to return-to-original-zero is very helpful.

I left the rear sight on for no other reason than I didn't have any filler screws to fill-in the open holes
on the breech block.
But to my surprise, the rear sight is not visible in the field-of-view.
About the only real problem is the flip-up scope caps cannot be used.
But, neither can the extended sun shade - even with the rear sight removed.
So far, I haven't experienced the need for either.

I forgot to mention, the scope is illuminated Green/Red.
And, the turrets are ZERO-locking by an over-sized castellated ring-nut at the base of the windage
and elevation turrets.
Setting the turret cap to zero and locking-zero can be a little tricky and requires a little practice to get
the sequence down.

So far, I've become satisfied with the way my 240 now handles.
The additional weight of the scope and one-piece mount really compliments the feel of my Schütze.
The Leaper's optic does seem a little large.
But over-all, not to the point of being perceived as out-of-place.

I had considered mounting the next size smaller scope version - the one with a 40mm objective.
UTG 1" 3-9X40 Full Size AO Mil-dot RGB
Zero Locking/Resetting Scope
Item No.: SCP-U394AORGW

But, the forty objective would have required the same high mount - thus, no advantage going 40mm.
I'm thinking, better to use the clearance between the barrel and objective to good use with more glass.

I did encounter one problem with the scope swap.
Apparently, my 240 does exhibit some barrel droop.
The scope elevation is within a full turn-and-a-half of running out of elevation adjustment.
Reversing the single-piece mount changed little.

Since my 240 is slightly de-tuned, I don't think the recoil being generated will damage the erector mechanism.
Even so, in the near future a droop compensating mount will be in-the-works.


Reference: Diana 240 Schütze and Leaper's 3-9X50 Mil-Dot IR with Zero Lock/Reset Expand Thread
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-03-2013 at 10:16 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 05-01-2013, 10:53 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Air Arms Falcon 7.33gr Pellets

When I purchased my Diana 240, the rifle had been tuned by John in PA
using Air Arms Falcon 7.33gr pellets.
Unfortunately for me, I couldn't find anyone stocking these little pellets.
Now, I've finally been able to obtain a couple of tins to try-out in my Schütze.
With the first few try-out groups ... I was impressed.
So I settled-down for a 5-shot string at 10-m (33-ft) - I wasn't disappointed.
Standing Position
Off-Hand Supporting Forearm
Off-hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 10-Meters (33ft)
Air Arms Falcon 7.33gr Domed Pellets
Calm Wind Conditions

After this group, I set-up to fire some groups at 20 yards.
I really didn't expect much.
But, I knew that round-head or domed pellets fair better at longer distances
than wadcutter pellets or flat-head pellets.
The following is the best group I fired at 20 yards with the Falcons.
Standing Position
Off-Hand Supporting Forearm
Off-hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20-Yards
Air Arms Falcon 7.33gr Domed Pellets
Calm Wind Conditions

The round-head pellets do not cut the target cleanly.
Even so, Look closely and you will see five pellet strikes.
I shouldn't be surprised by these results since John in PA was employing AA Falcons
in his testing of this 240.

Unfortunately for me, I've learned that Air Arms is no-longer marketing these
light-weight 7.33gr pellets.
And, while trying to be penny-wise ... I only bought a couple of tins.
So, I probably need to buy-up a good supply of these discontinued Falons.
Also, it is my understanding Air Arms pellets are sourced from JSB.
As such, I've ordered some JSB Match Diabolo Exact RS 7.33gr pellets to try-out.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-08-2013 at 09:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 05-02-2013, 01:51 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
Crosman New Destroyer 7.9gr at 20 Yards

I have some Crosman New Destroyer 7.9gr pellets that I have to take into consideration for use in my 240.
Why? Because the Destroyer EX 7.3gr pellets I had been using ... I can't find anymore - anywhere.
Early-on, I had some good results with the lighter EX pellets in my Schütze as well as my Daisy 880.
Standing Position
Off-Hand Supporting Forearm
Off-hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20-Yards
Crosman NEW Destroyer 7.9gr Pointed Pellets
Calm Wind Conditions
Circle is the size of a Dime

But, as I said earlier, the relationship with the accurate, lightweight and inexpensive
Destroyer EX 7.4gr seems to be coming to an end as Crosman no-longer lists the pellet.

Even though the NEW Destroyers displayed shockingly good accuracy in my Mod. 240.
Why not use them in my 240?
In a word performance, the low-power, low-velocity characteristics of the Diana Mod. 240
are best suited for use with light-weight pellets especially when I use my Schütze
for defending the bird-feeder from sparrows.
A heavier pellet at close range on sparrows often over penetrates creating a potential
for a friendly fire mishap.
Moreover, it is nice to have a fairly flat trajectory.
Lastly, the Crosman pellets require very frequent cleaning of the barrel to maintain accuracy.
I'd like to avoid being inconvenienced by the need for additional barrel related maintenance.
__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 08-17-2013 at 01:04 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 05-02-2013, 05:14 PM
aom22's Avatar
aom22
US Air Force Disabled American Veteran Law Enforcement Officer NRA Member - Click Here To Join!

Moderator
Join Date: 
Sep 2004
Location: 
Fort Stockton, TX
Posts: 
4,680
TPC Rating: 
0% (0)
H&N Terminators 7.25gr at 10-Meters and 20-Yards

I had the opportunity to fire a few groups with H&N Terminators 7.25gr pellets.
At first, I fired a few groups at 10-meters to access the short-range accuracy of the pellets.
I was firing quickly since there were some gusty winds present.
As such, spending too much time and effort to carefully aim probably would not be rewarded
with great precision because of the winds.
So, I made a casual effort to form some groups.

Even so, the final group situated above the nickel and dime proved to be rather satisfactory
considering the conditions.
All considered ... Not too bad.
Standing Position
Off-Hand Supporting Forearm
Off-hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 10-Yards
H&N Terminators 7.25gr Point-Shaped Nose, Hollow-Point with Pin-Point Center
Unpredictable Low-Wind Gusts

So, I set-up a fresh target at 20-yards and began to fire away.
I was presently surprised to see the a good group forming-up.
That is until shot number 4 ... landed way-left of the main group.
I attributed this near miss to the wind conditions as shot number 5 impacted within
the main group.
Standing Position
Off-Hand Supporting Forearm
Off-hand Resting on Rolled-Up Pad
5-Shots at 20-Yards
H&N Terminators 7.25gr Point-Shaped Nose, Hollow-Point with Pin-Point Center
Unpredictable Low-Wind Gusts

__________________
W. Edwards Deming ... Quality: It is not enough to do-your-best;
you must know what-to-do, and ... then ... do-your-best.
Ever-Onward ... Through the Fog ---- Fort Stockton TX 79735

Last edited by aom22; 05-03-2013 at 06:47 PM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:32 PM.

Privacy Policy

DMCA Notice

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright ©2000-2018 RimfireCentral.com
x