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How They Came to America: Tech Force 79 (AKA: Industry Brand AR2078B)



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I was at the Pyramd Air Gun Blog (aka: Tom Gaylord's haunt) and came across
a very interesting article on the Tech Force TF79 (INDUSTRY BRAND Match Gun AR2078B ???).
What caught my eye was the history lesson revolving around the inception
and early marketing of these Chinese sourced Crosman 160 clones.

A lot is explained in this short piece.
And, it is well worth you time to read to complete article.

History
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If youíre new to airgunning, you need to know what transpired to bring a rifle
like the .177 caliber Tech Force TF79 Competition Rifle to the market.
It began in the 1950s with the inception of the Crosman 160.
The 160 was a .22 caliber single-shot CO2 rifle that used two cartridges
to shoot 25-35 pellets at around 610 f.p.s

Enter Tim McMurray and Henry Harn.
Tim we all know as Mac-1, and heíd been working on 160s for decades by this time.
Harn was a businessman with connections in China, so he asked Tim to put together
the finest version of a 160 he could, and then Harn would have the Chinese duplicate it.
Yeah, I know what youíre thinking, only Harn and McMurray rode the Chinese roughshod
until they got what they were after ó more or less.
The QB-22 was a knockoff of the Crosman 160 that gave nothing away in quality or accuracy.
Tim did have early problems with barrel quality, but he sorted it out.

The QB 22 languished.
About a year later, something called a QB 78 hit our shores and it retailed for about $78.
That got people talking.
A real Crosman 160 for $78!
Only, it wasnít a real 160, of course.
It was a gamble.
Some of them shot great, while others were just mediocre.
For the first time, the Chinese were embarrassed by their own lack of quality.
They had expected huge sales,
but the lackluster performance of the gun left sales in the dumper.
Apparently, you canít just build a mock landing strip and control tower
to attract the cargo planes from the U.S. (Iím referring to the cargo cults.)

So, they did something remarkable.
They built a new and improved rifle ó the QB 79.
The gun they should have built all along, only they didnít.
Now, they were at it full bore.
Yes, the QB 79 was the gun you really wanted,
but they had quality problems with that model, as well.
Some were great shooters, while others were only mediocre.

Whole cottage industries have sprung up around these models.
Mike Stephen (sorry for the typo!) Archer in upstate New York makes his living selling
both repair parts and modified parts for the rifle and by selling high-graded rifles,
which are based on accuracy.

Thatís enough history.
You now know that what weíre about to look at is a close copy
and descendant of the famous Crosman 160.
You may not yet know what that entails, but therein lies my report.
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AR2078A and AR2078B are NOT the Same Air Rifle

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I was at the Pyramd Air Gun Blog (aka: Tom Gaylord's haunt)
and came across
a very interesting article on the Tech Force TF79 (INDUSTRY BRAND Match Gun AR2078B ???).
Apparently, the Tech Force TF-79 is not an Industry Brand AR2078B.
It is the Industry Brand AR2078A.
This is from a most authoritative source on Chinese Airguns - Stephen Archer

AR2078A and AR2078B are NOT the Same Air Rifle
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The TF-79 is exactly the same air rifle as the AR2078A.
The only difference is the product name.

The Tech Force/TF brand was used by Compasseco and has now been assumed by PyramydAir.
AR2078A is the name for this product used by the Shanghai Airgun Factory itself.
Reference: Tech Force TF79 vs Industry Match Rifle AR2078B vs Industry CO2 AR2078A
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