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Old 11-18-2010, 05:32 PM
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Baikal IZH-35M ... aka: MP-35M ... Back In-Production



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Looks like an batch of IZH-35M (MP-35M) are, finally, back in-production.
IZH-35M Rapid Fire Pistol

Baikal News - November 16, 2010
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We invite sports organizations to get the MP-35M.
In November 2010, IMZ has released batch of sports standard autoloading pistols MP-35M.
IZH-35M Rapid Fire Pistol

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Old 11-23-2010, 10:21 PM
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I regret not getting one years ago from CDNN. It would be nice if some were sent to our shores, but with the depreciation of the dollar and lots more people focusing on .22LR due to the crazy prices charged for centerfire ammo, I wonder what they'd sell for these days.
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:39 AM
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Hopefully they keep the prices down on them again. The price of extra mags should lower with new ones entering the country.

I can't say enough good about my izh-35m, bought it for a song years ago & I've never had a problem with it.

The day I shot mine for the first time is the day my s&w 41 became a plinking pistol. I gave the s&w a fair chance, even bought a 5.5"bbl for it & tried that bbl scoped & with iron sights.

The izh's are excellent pistols that are extremely accurate with triggers to die for. Best $300 dollors I ever spent.
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:14 PM
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The day I shot mine for the first time is the day my s&w 41 became a plinking pistol.
Wow, 'guess that says a lot. In what ways do you think it's that much better than the Model 41? It's obviously a much more modern design, lower bore axis, probably faster lock time, etc.
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Old 11-24-2010, 05:44 PM
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S&W Model 41 vs Baikal IZH-35 ... Different Type of Competition

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In what ways do you think it's that much better than the Model 41?
Well, I think this statement must be put into context.
ISSF 25m Standard Pistol or Sport Pistol aka: 25m Pistol
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Baikal: The IZH35 has to be the best value on the market for a no-frills
and no nonsense target pistol that performs extremely well.
BAIKAL IZH 35M 22LR

Standard and Sport Pistols ... Entrees
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Being those guns which are made for general purpose target shooting
but not specifically to ISSF rules.

These can make good starter guns.

Smith & Wesson: The Model 41 ....
If I remember correctly, the S&W 41 was developed for American rimfire pistol competition - not ISSF.
S&W 41 versus IZH-35 ... is not a fair or reasonable comparison.
The IZH-35 is purpose built for ISSF competition ... the S&W Model 41 is not.

By the way, I haven't mentioned this before.
I do own a Model 41.
And, I'd like to buy an IZH-35.
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Old 11-24-2010, 06:50 PM
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In a nutshell the trigger.

Their just silky smooth & can be adjusted 4 different ways. I like my triggers to touch just forward of the center of my fingerprint on my trigger finger. I also like just a hair of slack when I first start to pull the trigger.

The best way I can describe the difference in the triggers of the 2 pistols is by other comparisions that people may have experienced.

It would be like comparing a factory ruger mk series pistols trigger to a custom trigger kit in one. Or the same pistol compared to the S&W41, when you pull the trigger you just go "WOW, what a difference!!!". I've handed my izh to alot of different people to try & the reply is always the same.

If you're shooting the izh-35m & the s&w41 from a bench or 2 handed the differences really won't show up. Don't get wrong, I love my smiths, down to seven of them right now but that will change soon enough.

Truely, at the end of the day, you just can't beat the triggers on these russian pistols. You're not going to find a better price/trigger/accuracy combo out there in their target pistols. I own the izh-46m 10m pellet pistol, the izh-35m 25m pistol & the toz-35 50m pistol and I wouldn't sell any of them. Their way too much fun!!!!
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Izh-35m

I too have a IZH-35M. It delivers performance that is hard to match for even twice the price in another pistol. I had a 41 S&W at the same time. I kept the 35M but the 41 is long gone and not missed. My 41 just did not perform at the same level in accuracy, match performance, and reliability. However, this is my experience and yours may be different.
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I hope these arrive to US shores again so that I can get one with extra magazines & spare parts at a sane price.
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keep us in the loop! i want one.
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Not so sure about the 35M

I have a baikal 35 M and have been shooting it competitivly for quite some time,
except for when it wasn't working.
These pistols do have a history of doubling and tripling and from what I understand,
the head space is tight which conforms with russian steel cased ammo.
I had to send mine back to EAA for free gunsmithing
but I understand that EAA is not performing that any more.
If you are having doubling problems let me know
and I can tell you what EAA did and maybe do a drawing.
I have also heard that the doubling is coming from the extractor dragging
on the breach of the barrell and drawing a burr.
I have also had reports that the slide and extractor will fail, throwing parts to the hinterland.
before you purchase check the parts availibility for the slide, extractor,
and retaining springs and pins from either EAA or Walther.
When the darn thing works, its one of the most awsome pistols available at any price.
Since mine has been working good for the past three years, I will keep it until it malfunctions.
when it does fail, I will probably not repair it but replace it with another bullseye pistol.

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Thread Did Not Include A Drawing

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If you are having doubling problems let me know
and I can tell you what EAA did and maybe do a drawing.
crankythunder, you did address the issue.
But, the thread did not include a drawing.
By the way, I don't think you've ever posted a photo of your pistol.
IZH-35M Doubling and Tripling problems
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Hey AOM

send me a message with your email address in it and I will send you a couple pics of my izh 35m and what EAA did to it.

Cranky ... can you see the circular machining mark above the chamber on the breech?

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... send me a message with your email address in it ....
Cranky ... Check your messages.
I sent a private message with my email address - aom22.
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Old 11-26-2010, 02:46 PM
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you got pics!

and a pm too!

Let me know if I can clarify it if the pics are not too clear.

Cranky ... can you see the circular machining mark above the chamber on the breech?

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If you zoom in on the breach, you can see the little "ledge" or "shelf"


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where EAA milled a small circular depression just a little larger then the rim of a 22.
before they milled it the breach was flat whereas now there is a shelf
that sticks rearward above the rim of the 22 case.
thus the headspace is increased by the depth of the milling.
I estimate that they milled about 0.100 inches although I will confirm
that the next time I completely tear it all the way down.
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