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Old 03-13-2009, 09:36 AM
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I need to finalize the length of pull, and cut excess wood. In this situation, slightly short is better than long.



I am using a 2 degree from perpendicular of RH cast off ( to the left) on this stock.



Cut as needed and remeasure. These are final measurements so take it slow.



Butt squared now. Now time to rasp thumb groove.




Clamp stock so you can grasp stock for constant feel/fit. Be careful to avoid the wrist as this is semi finished for mass material removal.



The end goal is to cut a 45 degree (+/-) groove.



Cut the groove most of the way (85%) or so.



The cheek piece needs some attention for weight loss.



Remember to clamp firm and with the jaws well above your final dimension lines.



Evaluate your work. Notice the heavy black line pointing to the dot on the action tang area. This dot and center line is your compass. This is one of the LAST things to remove.



Have at it.



Rasp this way as much as possible. (right handed people)



Not this way.



RH people tend to push to the right at the end of the stroke. At least once, one will rasp a huge piece from a semi finished area, and then you have repair work to do. Just avoid the problem and rasp to the left when possible.

Work you way toward the center lines. Remember if you have any wood to add. ( I do. ) so do not remove everything you can.

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Old 03-13-2009, 09:30 PM
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Bringing cheek piece up to correct height.

Last step prior to shaping ( I hope.). Next time I am using a medium dense wood for this. Oak is heaver than needed, and harder to work.



I removed the entire RH side to same height. Check surfaces often for dips or unevenness.




Mark the RH side with the rollover needed. 1/2" in this case. Also, check for parallel mating surfaces. Sand as needed.




Apply epoxy to both surfaces, to the edge. No gaps of bubbles.



Clamp in place and align center lines on front and back. Check for movement during clamping. (It moves EVERY time.)



Scrape off excess epoxy in corners, or it could cause problems later.


Final shaping is at the cusp.

More to come.

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Old 03-14-2009, 05:48 PM
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Shaping the buttstock

Rule 3.1(d) in the Silhouette rulebook says that the cheek piece cannot extend above the bore line. It is an assumption the top of the stock is synonymous with the bore line, although they are suppose to be, they may not be. By mounting the barreled action in stock, I will see if are the same.

The center of the cleaning rod is the center of the bore. If I had assumed the top of the stock was the bore line, I would have lost height on the stock comb.




The straightedge shows the top of the stock is BELOW the ctr of the cleaning rod. Not the best photo, but it shows the top of the stock is LOWER than the actual bore line. About 1/2 inch from the straightedge, there is a vertical line on the top riser. There are two dots close the vertical line indicating the bore line. I am using the one closest to the viewer. Actual difference is about 1/16th inch. Not much, but may as well do the correctly. I can always be trimmed later if needed.



RH side of riser. Notice 1/2 " offset allowed by Rule 3.1(d).



Cheek piece prior to drastic changes. This area will be the target of the rasp next.



But not prior to the comb being cut to height. (bore line) Notice the route grooves in the edge. This was an effort to see if liked the appearance. ( I did not.) The point is to experiment and see what you like.



The excess length of the riser must be trimmed first though. Since the riser top will be cut, along with the markings, and they are the most original markings available, the length must be trimmed first. The center of the comb sighting mark may then be re-marked across the top ( Using the marks extended over the edges), once the final height is cut.




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Old 03-17-2009, 09:13 AM
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The Final Four stock designs...

I will choose from. I like to work on computer composites of other stocks...combining features I like into one final design ( or 4).

This is working with MS Paint...so everyone should have a copy of the program. Easy to use, with many limitations, but ........free.











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Lots of Work

RET,

I looks like you've been very busy.
Your stock work must be an almost full-time endeavor.

The stock seems to be taking shape very nicely.
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Cheek piece taking shape

AOM22,

Thanks for the compliment: I looks like you've been very busy. Your stock work must be an almost full-time endeavor.

Does not take as much time as one may think. After a ???? of these jobs, it flies by. This work tonight took about 1 hour. Posting this w/ uploading, downloading, editing, photos, etc, took almost as long.

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The work you do for yourself takes longer, because one changes their mind along the way at times......like this time.

Was leaning toward model #1 in earlier post, but perhaps not now.

Mark out your ideas. They become concrete when you see them on the wood.



Hog out wood with any tool needed, including saws.



Use a chisel when needed to remove large pieces. Rasp without mercy on the areas that need it.



If a shape emerges you think you like, stop work until tomorrow, or shift your focus to another area.




Like the thumb hole area.
Use tools that "feel" right, even if another tool is actually the correct one.



I think I like the angular look. If I like it tomorrow, outcomes may change. This is where going slow is helpful.




Work carefully in tight spaces. Go slow.



Feel the work, and progress accordingly.



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Looks like I posted to many times.

More photos ready, but cannot post them.

According to Photobucket, this posting has received monthly hits: 157290

No more posting until April.

Here is a direct link: http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/t...921/?start=all

Copy it into your browser.


Sorry.

More to come.

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More photos ready, but cannot post them.

According to Photobucket, this posting has received monthly hits: 157290

No more posting until April.
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There's a simple solution ... Get a Pro Account like I have.

I only get approximately 32,000 per month - congratulations.

Would thumbnails help? I think so.
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157k that's amazing -- I guess there are more than just a few of us watching your progress.

How's it feel to be *famous*?
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I wondered about that myself robko626!

Did a little background on what constitutes a "hit". All this really means is I ran out of free space on Photobucket.

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Images = 345

This is the total number of digital content items (images and videos) in MY account. This includes the content in MY main album and any sub albums.

Hits = 197670

This is the total number of times someone has viewed MY digital content through direct linking. Since I have (345) images linked from MY Photobucket account to a webpage and one visitor views the page that is 345 'Hits'. Four visitors to a webpage with only one image direct linked is also four 'Hits'. Viewing MY images directly through MY Photobucket account does not add to the 'Monthly Hits'.

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AOM22 is right......I need to thumbnail the photos. Next month, when I have another month's worth of bandwidth, I will thumbnail the new stuff.

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Please let me know if this is worthwhile to anyone. I have never posted my work prior to this. I have these projects frequently. The everyday stuff is not worth the time to document, but the unusual stuff may be. I know this type of work is not very popular, with lightweight composite stocks being the rage, and rightfully so.

I wondered for several years if composites would kill my business. It has not so far. There are many wooden stocks on guns, that will never have a
replacement. Those are the ones that come to me.

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On the Russina front: I have a BB coming up and a CM2 to both rebuild. CM2 is first, BB is coming, but date is unknown. I am looking at the CM2 to be styled as:

http://www.geocities.com/landofsnipe.../cz700_ENG.htm
http://www.snipercentral.com/sporter.htm
http://www.snipercentral.com/trg21.htm

Perhaps the BB also.

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AOM22 is right......I need to thumbnail the photos. Next month,
when I have another month's worth of bandwidth,
I will thumbnail the new stuff.
You may wish to thumbnail some or all of your older stuff.
It will further reduce your bandwidth - I believe.

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[B]Please let me know if this is worthwhile to anyone.
I have these projects frequently.
The everyday stuff is not worth the time to document, but the unusual stuff may be.
I know this type of work is not very popular, with lightweight composite stocks being the rage, and rightfully so
I think you maybe inspiring VOSTOK owners to consider modifying their stocks.
Lets wait-and-see if other VOSTOK owners post threads on their stock project.

Perhaps, fewer detail images.
Or, one image that illustrates more than one task would be helpful.

Synthetic stocks are popular.
But, wooden stocks still have an appeal to many traditionalist.
Moreover, wood, comparatively speaking, is still still very light
and very inexpensive compared to ultra-light composite stocks.

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On the Russina front: I have a BB coming up and a CM2 to both rebuild.
The BI-7-2 and CM-2 rebuilds should be interesting to many owners.
Lots of BI-7-2 owners have modified their stocks.
One common need is a cheekpiece for the Biathlon Basic.

How about posting the progress, not the details of your rebuilds.
Beginning (Before), Midway (In-the-Rough before finishing), Finished (After)
If readers/viewers request more information - then, you will have your answer.
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Please let me know if this is worthwhile to anyone. I have never posted my work prior to this. I have these projects frequently. The everyday stuff is not worth the time to document, but the unusual stuff may be. I know this type of work is not very popular, with lightweight composite stocks being the rage, and rightfully so.
I'm not much of a shooter at all, and I find it really interesting. I think everyday stuff to you is probably new and interesting to a lot of us...especially people like me who've ruined a couple of cords' worth of wood.
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