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Old 12-13-2008, 07:45 PM
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Noooo....... Winchester hasn't sold any Wildcats with an adjustable trigger but mine has one!

OK. Here's the story. I went to an auction today and bought a TOZ-78-01 rifle. It was used and had only a single 10 round mag with it. On the way home I wondered if the TOZ-78 trigger assembly would interchange with the trigger on the Winchester Wildcat I already owned. It did so I now have a fully adjustable trigger on my Wildcat.

Installing the Wildcat's original trigger assembly on the TOZ-78 proved to be a bit more work. I had to do some file and Dremmel Tool fine tuning but it now works as advertised.

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Adjustable Trigger

Buying another rifle to cannibalize for parts ....
What an extreme measure to take in-order
to obtain a stock TOZ-78 trigger.

I, certainly, wished stocking dealers would make an effort to maintain
an adequate supply of spare parts for the Russian firearms they sell.

I've wondered about this possibility for sometime myself.
I hope the project turned-out well for your TOZ-78.

Could you take some pictures of the TOZ-78 and Winchester Wildcat
triggers to highlight the difference(s) between the two.
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:41 PM
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Buying another rifle to cannibalize for parts ....
What an extreme measure to take in-order
to obtain a stock TOZ-78 trigger.

I, certainly, wished stocking dealers would make an effort to maintain
an adequate supply of spare parts for the Russian firearms they sell.

I've wondered about this possibility for sometime myself.
I hope the project turned-out well for your TOZ-78.

Could you take some pictures of the TOZ-78 and Winchester Wildcat
triggers to highlight the difference(s) between the two.
IF the TOZ-78-01 had been NIB, I wouldn't have touched it but it is used and came with a single 10 round mag. It's also missing the sling swivels or studs. By switching the trigger assemblies I now have two fully functional rifles and the Winchester version is much easier to mount a scope on than the TOZ-78 with it's high rear sight. I like the stock on the Winchester much better also and it now has the trigger that SHOULD have been on it to begin with...... if Winchester had extracted their heads from the dark, smelly place they had them when they contracted the Wildcat's manufacture.

The only differences between the two trigger assemblies are the adjustments and it really wouldn't help to take pictures because other than the two adjustment screw heads, nothing else can be seen.

The safety has a flat piece that pivots on a pin when the safety is activated. Part of the flat piece moves into a recess slot cut into the lower receiver. The slot ensures that the safety is properly positioned to block the trigger when the safety is applied. The Winchester trigger's safety required removing some of the flat piece to match the receiver slot in the TOZ-78. A Dremmel Tool took care of that easily enough. Then it was necessary to file about 10 thousands of an inch from the receiver's sear recess front face as the sear was just barely hanging up as it contacted the receiver. A few minutes with a file and it all fits and works as it should.

I had previously modified the Winchester trigger to lighten it and the TOZ-78 still has a decent trigger.

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Old 12-17-2008, 06:26 PM
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Wouldn't it just have been easier to put the Wildcat stock on the TOZ-78? I guess some might prefer the Wildcat's sites.
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... I guess some might prefer the Wildcat's sites.
The lower, fold-down rear sight of the Wildcat should make
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You can always drive out the two pins on the rear sight assembly for the '78 and remove it. Of course, that leaves the front sight block, which may get in the way of the scope. But, I think that can be removed too. Although it doesn't leave the muzzle end of the barrel looking very nice.
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so has anyone figured out if its possible to decrease the trigger pull on the wildcat? its by no means a bad trigger, but its not necessarily a good one either. I'm also assuming its not possible to order a 78's trigger from anyone?
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:37 PM
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so has anyone figured out if its possible to decrease the trigger pull on the wildcat? its by no means a bad trigger, but its not necessarily a good one either. I'm also assuming its not possible to order a 78's trigger from anyone?
No, it's not a "bad" trigger; It's an absolutely HORRIBLE trigger as shipped from the factory.

Yes, I modified my Wildcat trigger to one that is decent (and is now on the TOZ-78). Remove one of the two trigger return springs, remove a full coil from the sear spring and stone the sear & firing pin. Makes a world of difference.
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Old 12-26-2008, 08:29 PM
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No, it's not a "bad" trigger; It's an absolutely HORRIBLE trigger as shipped from the factory.

Yes, I modified my Wildcat trigger to one that is decent (and is now on the TOZ-78). Remove one of the two trigger return springs, remove a full coil from the sear spring and stone the sear & firing pin. Makes a world of difference.
Horrible? U should shoot a marlin model 60. Thats a horrible trigger.

I'll tear into it and polish everything. Thanks for the quick how to.
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