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Old 11-04-2008, 09:31 PM
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Question TOZ 17-01 Bolt Disassembly



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Any words of wisdom or tricks on disassembly of a Toz bolt?
I would like to take mine apart to clean and polish it.
The firing spring seems to bind a bit when closing the bolt.

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Old 11-05-2008, 04:44 PM
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TOZ-17 Manual

I don't know if you have a manual in English.
Here is one at this link.

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Old 11-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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Thanks, that is most helpful.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:30 PM
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Caseboy,

Open the bolt and take it out of the action.
Grab the Bolt with your left hand by the Bolt head.
Turn the Bolt stem down, like you'll do to close the bolt.
Take Bolt apart by pulling on both peaces. No hammer needed.
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Old 11-06-2008, 09:40 PM
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OK mosbear, that worked exactly like you said.
Came apart real easy
and only caught the tip of my thumb between the cocking piece
and the bolt body.

The inside of the bolt where the firing pin
and the pin spring ride is quite rough (like I thought).

Any suggestions on how to polish that up so that it is smoother
when you close the bolt (as well as cocking the pin)?
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Old 11-06-2008, 10:06 PM
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mosbear info

mosbear ... good information.

Do you own a TOZ 17?

Welcome to the forum ... keep posting.
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OK mosbear, that worked exactly like you said. Came apart real easy and only caught the tip of my thumb between the cocking piece and the bolt body. The inside of the bolt where the firing pin and the pin spring ride is quite rough (like I thought). Any suggestions on how to polish that up so that it is smoother when you close the bolt (as well as cocking the pin)?
Caseboy,

The spring is compressed when you close the bolt
and will not form the perfect cylindrical shape.

The reason for this is - the firing pin, which serves as a spring guide rod,
is much smaller in diameter then the spring's internal diameter.

There is no way you can avoid this so, stop thinking about it.
Everything that needs to be moving without any obstruction already moves that way.

The spring is very strong compare to the western rimfire rifles;
this is why one has to apply much more force while closing the bolt on TOZ-17.

This rifle was designed as a small game hunting rifle;
all of the Soviet 22lr hunting cartridges were made with the steel case
and required much more strike force to ignite.

The good news is, TOZ-17 has a hammered barrel, target chamber and broached rifling.

Those three features make them very accurate
with the standard velocity ammo, which they were designed for.

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mosbear ... good information.

Do you own a TOZ 17?

Welcome to the forum ... keep posting.
aom22,

I do own one.
My TOZ is much better shooter then I am.
I shoot iron sights standing position, no exception.
I am in the middle of reshaping the stock from pistol grip to strait 'english' grip.
As much as I love my TOZ, 2X4 feels better in hand then TOZ's stock.
If it turns out good maybe I'll post the picture.

BTW those guys have TOZ mags in stock http://www.hoosiergunworks.com/catal...ine_rifle.html
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:09 PM
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You are right mosbear, the firing pin strike is deep!
Didn't realize the the Ruskie 22 case were steel.
Thanks again.
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TOZ stock reshaped

Here is one of the pictures of my TOZ with reshaped stock. No more ugly pistol grip and pressed checkering. Finish is not 100% done yet.

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I am lookimg to remove the bolt on a Toz 17 01

The back of the barrel where the bolt stops has a round metal cap that needs to come off to remove the bolt. The rifle is 37 years old and I can't find any videos of how to remove the cap. I am guessing it is a combination depressing the safety and trigger and turning the cap. I can't figure it out.
Any ideas?
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Hold the trigger back, open the bolt and pull smartly to the rear. Cap should come off right before the bolt comes out.
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Bolt reply

Thanks for the advice kr54. I tried and so did a gun smith and we could not make it move. I will keep searching for an answer. I can seem to get a good grip to pull hard. It shouldn't be that difficult I figure. The riffle is working fine. I should leave well enough alone.
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Old 06-27-2016, 10:51 PM
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Had a similar problem. The trick was to pull the trigger back, having made sure that it is empty and mag removed, as far as it will go. This can be deceptive as it will/may go back further than you thought. A preasure a) then a preasure b) sort of thing. The end cap has two spring steel arms which hold the cap in place. As written before, trigger ALL THE WAY BACK and move the bolt back smartly. If it fails to work, review your trigger preasure or just do it in the first place.
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:01 PM
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"I can seem to get a good grip to pull hard. "
Do you mean can't? It is not that hard to do. Just a firm grip of the pistol grip is entirely adequate.

"It shouldn't be that difficult I figure. "
You are right, it is not.

"I should leave well enough alone."
You should not. If you are going to clean your rifle, you might as well do it well.
You cannot do it well if you fail to remove the bolt.

Was your gunsmith in high heels wearing lippy?
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:17 PM
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That was a good one about the gunsmith kchil. I think he is a genius and maybe too smart for his own good sometimes. He custom builds beautiful gun from scratch. Maybe it just wasn't worth his time and figured there would be a You Tube video out there. If I can get it off, maybe I will make one.
I will give it a try again this long weekend.

Thanks for all of the advice. I did feel a 2 pressure system with the trigger, almost like 2 clicking sounds when squeezing the trigger. I will pull it back smartly and see what happens.

And the saga contiues
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