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Old 03-29-2008, 11:17 PM
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Extraction problems with my BTVS



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THE THREAD SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED EJECTION PROBLEM

I'm getting a bit of problems with my Mark II BTVS.

The accuracy is fantastic but too often, I get the brass stuck in the extractor which causes a jam when loading the next round. I don't mind it for practice but in a match situation, it will be a problem.

Anyone has had that problem and found a way to fix it. Basically, as I said, the fired brass does not eject.

I use Wolf ammo, like Wolf ammo and plan to continue to use the same ammo, so I'm not looking for an ammo "solution" (like try this or that) but a way to solve the problem with the extractor.

Any tip would be awesome.

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:02 AM
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My BTVS has not shown that problem. Zero non extractions. Have had no opportunity to try Wolf ammo, so can't comment on it. Eley and Lapua seem to offer the best accuracy in what I have tested.

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Old 03-30-2008, 01:09 AM
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Are you saying that the casing extracts fine, but it doesn't end up getting ejected when the bolt is pulled all the way to the rear?
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Are you saying that the casing extracts fine, but it doesn't end up getting ejected when the bolt is pulled all the way to the rear?
YEP...it's excatly the problem. Same with Elley.

It's not an ammo issue but a mechanical one I think. Just checking if someone has already resolved that problem before.
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:07 PM
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Here is the exact issue...same problem occurs with live round.

I pull back the bolt and the round stays stuck as you can see and thus, I can't load the next round without creating a jam.



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Can we get some pics of the bolt face taken out of the gun?

Oh and pic just like the first one, but without the bolt or the mag installed.

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:27 PM
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Can we get some pics of the bolt face taken out of the gun?

Oh and pic just like the first one, but without the bolt or the mag installed.

Here we go.

BTW, the problem is WAY WORSE if I move the bolt SLOWLY. If I move it fast, it occurs from time to time. If I move it slowly, the round stays stuck usually.






Maybe 600 rounds through the rifle so far but the issue named above has been there from the beginning so I don't think it's a cleaning issue either.
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:32 PM
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Your bolt face looks perfect. Just like mine. i think the piece you missing is inside.
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:46 PM
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Ok, heres 2 pics of my gun. if you look closely right at the bottom of the bolt there is a blade sticking up. Do you have that? it does 2 things. it keeps the bolt face from rotating and it kicks out the shell as the bolt comes back past it. It probably could also be that your bolt is not coming back far enough to ingage the tab to kick the shell out.




ps. yes the gun is dirty! it just got well used.

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Old 03-30-2008, 12:49 PM
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:52 PM
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It looks a littly warn. Mabe it dosent stick up unough to catch the edge of the shell?
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Old 03-30-2008, 12:53 PM
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Interesting...I guess I'll have to play with this a bit.

With the bolt there, the inside pretty much looks the same as yours.

600 rounds should not make it worn like that, although I did buy the "show floor" rifle which everyone was handling with a very dry bolt.

But a comparaison of the photos seems to indicate that difference between yours and my rifle.

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Old 03-30-2008, 08:48 PM
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PROBLEM SOLVED... THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!! HotRodenFord.

I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to do those pictures.

My solution was to bent the ejector slightly and flatten the end of it (the part pushing the brass) a bit with a hammer where it showed some wear.

I did some test with moving back the bolt REALLY SLOWLY (Which was a 100% failure to eject before) and now it's working all the time.

Thanks dude...
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:55 PM
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PROBLEM SOLVED... THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!!!!!! HotRodenFord.

I REALLY appreciate you taking the time to do those pictures.

My solution was to bent the ejector slightly and flatten the end of it (the part pushing the brass) a bit with a hammer where it showed some wear.

I did some test with moving back the bolt REALLY SLOWLY (Which was a 100% failure to eject before) and now it's working all the time.

Thanks dude...
That part is the ejector, as the bolt goes rearward with the empty the ejector kicks the left side free and the extractor (the spg loaded hook on the right side of your bolt) causes the shell to flip out of the reciever --JMJ--
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Old 03-30-2008, 11:24 PM
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Your Welcome. Its the least I could do since my gun safe is about 3' away from the computer.
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