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Old 05-23-2017, 12:19 PM
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Hey guys I'm new to the AR style rifles looking at a Smith to shoot Steel Challenge. Which model should I start with and what mods will it need to run good? Looking at the M-Lok 10"? Is the PC model worth the extra money? Thanks
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:22 PM
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I have the Sport (MLOK version) and technically it needs nothing but ammo to run.

The advantages of the PC version as far as I can tell are the better trigger, and the stock. If you want something different from those, get the base model.

I'd prefer the 18" barrel just for a little more heft and to be a tiny bit more quiet suppressed, but the PC wasn't worth it to me as I wanted a Geissele trigger and MFT stock to match my other AR's.

I've read that either the ejector or extractor break around 15k rounds. Mine passed 16k, almost all suppressed, last weekend.
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Old 05-24-2017, 08:07 PM
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Get the sport base model with the threaded barrel (do they still sell non threaded ones?) and put your money into a good trigger. That and some mags is all you need, gunmagwarehouse.com has them on sale for 15 bucks.

I passed 20k rounds before I changed my extractor

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I have owned and worked on many performance center revolvers and not a one of them were race ready for a serious competitor. It still won't have the trigger you desire and it will cost the same to get it competition ready as the base guns. There really isn't anything performance about the current Performance Center guns. As stated above, be sure to get a threaded barrel model as the cost is only slightly more and a lot cheaper than getting it threaded later when you decide to put that new can on it. :-)

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Old 05-25-2017, 03:26 AM
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Thanks guys this info helps. Is there a certain trigger that I should look at? Or does any trigger in the AR world work fine? Also is the butt stock mil-spec or commercial? How easy is it to clean?
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Old 05-25-2017, 08:40 AM
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Thanks guys this info helps. Is there a certain trigger that I should look at? Or does any trigger in the AR world work fine? Also is the butt stock mil-spec or commercial? How easy is it to clean?

As already mentioned I would look at Geiselle triggers I have a few of them and they are excellent. You'll probably want a single stage and small pin style. I believe they have a commercial buffer tube (I could be wrong) but you can find a mil-spec replacement for about $20.
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Old 05-25-2017, 09:35 AM
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The buffer tube can't be (easily) replaced. Both of mine (earlier quad rail models) had mil-spec diameter tubes.

Any AR15 trigger willl work, but invest in some longer trigger/hammer pins as the 15-22 lower is just a bit wider than standard. I use CMC captured pins made for the 15-22.
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Old 05-25-2017, 03:10 PM
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They do sit inset / look odd, but Geissele told me not to worry about the pin length in a 15-22.

The hammer did break around 14k rounds, but they replaced the whole FCG very quickly and professionally.
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Get the Colt 901 pins from Geissele. They fit perfect and solve many problems.

Otherwise the KNS pins will also work. But you WILL need longer pins if you are working your rifle seriously.
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Also, I'm not sure of your budget, but the 22LR is notorious for miss-fires with light hammer falls. The Hiperfire Hypertouch 24-C trigger will eliminate that problem.
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Hiperfire 24c and KNS anti roll pins made for the 15-22.
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First trip to the range pin came out on the trigger. Took a minute to figure out the problem ordered the cmc pins when I got home. New buttstock hogue grip should be good
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