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Legion Sobol in Premire Oxide



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I love my Legion Sobol - Premier Oxide and all.

Over-all, there is a lot to like about the matte finish.
For one, I'm not fearful of marring or blemishing the stock or metal finish.

My Sobol is not a rifle it is a carbine.
It seems to have the right proportions for a smaller adult.
However, it feels heavier than it looks - a dense package.
Even though it weights just 7 lbs.
As such, a boy or girl may not feel comfortable carrying it.

Petite, like a Browning .22 Auto,
is not a word I would use to describe the Sobol.
This .22 feels robust, purposeful and hand-filling.
A no-nonsense firearm with old-world, good-looks.

The action is glass-bedded. And, the barrel is free-floated.
The muzzle has a concave, target crown typical of Biathlon rifles.

The front sight is a wide post threaded for elevation.
And, situated behind a thinner blade - odd.
It reminds me of a mini AR-15 front sight post.
Windage is by drift adjustment.

The rear sight is clunky and angular.
And, quick range changes are by a cammed lever on the left side.
The range markings are for 25 and 75 meters.

The stock wood is well-figured and oil finished to a dull, lusterless satin.
As are the fore-end tip, pistol grip cap, butt plate
and magazine storage cover - equally, well-figured wood.
The Schnabel fore-end tip looks right.
The shadow cheekpiece is well proportioned.
However, the diamond checkering on the forearm and pistol grip
do not rise to a point.
The tips are squared-off.

What I don't like:
Trigger - non-adjustable (says so in instruction manual)
Trigger Pull - long first stage travel before second stage sets
Sights - windage adjustment is by drifting front sight with a single index mark
Front Sight - post is broad and square almost like a pistol sight.
Trigger Guard & Floor Plate - made of a plastic material
Rear Sight - cannot be removed for peep sight installation,
... to remove rear sight would require machining
... rear sight mounting block is also recoil lug
... and threaded receptacle for the stock mounting screw
Bolt Linkage - chrome plated, the bright chrome is out-of-place with a matte finish
Checkering - diamond checkering tips do not rise to sharp point,
... they are squared-off.
High Price - it is too expensive ... However, I wouldn't hesitate to pay $600
The instruction manual includes a test target.
I will try to post the target as soon as I get a chance.
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The action bolts are pillar bedded and held captive.
The trigger guard is held in-place with one screw.
The front-end of the trigger guard inserts into a retaining slot.


The action is glass bedded.


The recoil lug is glass bedded.
The lug bolt is pillar bedded and held captive.




Removing the trigger guard reveals the rear action bedding bolt.


The trigger guard/floor plate is made of plastic.




The spare magazine storage cover in the closed position.


The magazine storage cover is wood.
The inside of the cover maybe epoxy coated.
Or, it metal with a wood veneer.
Either way, alot of work went into the cover.


The magazine storage cover latch.
The latch contacts a metal tab on the inside surface of the cover.
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The safety lever also locks the bolt in the closed position.
Notice, the bolt and linkage are chrome plated.
The chrome appears out-of-place on a matte finished rifle.




Once sighted-in, the rear sight is adjustable for specific ranges only.
Sight-in elevation adjustment is accomplished on the front sight.
Windage adjustment is on the front sight as well.




The rear sight is integral with the recoil lug.
The range elevation cam is foward of the recoil lug.
As such, to remove the rear sight to install a peep sight
will require some machining of the recoil lug.


Elevation adjustment is on the front sight - similar to an AR-15.


Windage is by drift adjustment.
There is a single reference mark for windage adjustment.
Note, the thin front sight blade ahead of the adjustable front sight post.
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How much was this gun?
This thread will give some insight on the price.
It may vary ... depending on the dealer.

Fancy stocked Sobol - Izhmash Custom Rifle by LEGION - GROUP BUY???

I purchased my Legion Sobol from:



Response From Altius
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Larsen will ship rifles to me next week so I should see them in 2-3 weeks.
No word from him yet on the potential availability of the other models you were interested in.
I'll keep you posted on that.

I can get you the Sobol (LEGION) for $850 if you are interested.

Marc

Marc Sheppard
Altius Handcrafted Firearms
P.O. Box 1028/125 Madison Avenue
West Yellowstone, MT 59758 USA
406-646-9222 TEL
406-646-9433 FAX
[email protected]
www.altiusguns.com
Expensive? ... Yes.
But, not exactly.
This carbine must be placed in context.
A Kimber Classic (no-longer listed) sells for approximately $750 to $800.
The Weatherby XXII is approximately $800.
A Cooper entry model goes for $1200.
(I may be a little off on the prices ... however, my estimates illustrate my point.)
The Legion is competitively priced, unique and more (much more) exclusive.

Moreover, what is the likelihood of ... ever ... encountering a Legion Sobol?
A very, very small chance - indeed.

Will it maintain its value or appreciate? Probably not.
Sad to say. But, such is the case with Russian firearms.

However, what the Legion represents ... is in the eye of the beholder.
To me, it is am outstanding example of what Russian firearms craftsman
are capable of producing in a rimfire rifle.

When is the last time you saw a .22 rimfire rifle
with a Mannlicher styled stock and Schnabel forend.
Not to mention, with a with a straight-pull bolt.
Not Likely.

I think, if a knowledgeable gun enthusiast were to view this rifle,
he or she would be surprised, interested and admiring - I believe.
I know ... I am.
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