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Old 06-01-2019, 08:35 AM
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I'm setting my son's 10/22 to use at an Appleseed. I've done the requisite trigger work and extractor/guide rod work to get it operating and cycling 100%. I put it in a Blackhawk Axiom stock to lower the weight. He has a Sweet 22 3x9 that he loves. He's just 10 and I'm afraid the rifle is still too heavy for him for the standing. I might switch the scope out to a simmons 22Mag which is cheap and will drop the weight quite a bit. I'm looking at inexpensive light weight barrel options. Cheapest would be hack-sawing the end off the barrel but I'm not sure how much weight it will save. A few Oz for sure. Is the Kidd at $185 the cheapest lightweight option? At that price I might as well SBR it and stick my extra charger barrel in it. Maybe you guys know of some options I haven't found in my googling.
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:14 AM
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I'm setting my son's 10/22 to use at an Appleseed. I've done the requisite trigger work and extractor/guide rod work to get it operating and cycling 100%. I put it in a Blackhawk Axiom stock to lower the weight. He has a Sweet 22 3x9 that he loves. He's just 10 and I'm afraid the rifle is still too heavy for him for the standing. I might switch the scope out to a simmons 22Mag which is cheap and will drop the weight quite a bit. I'm looking at inexpensive light weight barrel options. Cheapest would be hack-sawing the end off the barrel but I'm not sure how much weight it will save. A few Oz for sure. Is the Kidd at $185 the cheapest lightweight option? At that price I might as well SBR it and stick my extra charger barrel in it. Maybe you guys know of some options I haven't found in my googling.
Cutting an 18" barrel down to 16" doesn't offer much juice for the squeeze. Tapered barrels weigh about an ounce per inch. To me the TacSol SB-X offers the best bang for the buck. At 13 ounces they are 7 oz lighter than the Kidd it'll give you an excuse to buy a can down the road. For the record the Kidd LW weighs 7 oz less than a tapered 16" steel barrel.
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KID Ultra-Lt Wt. is $185... $40 cheaper than the TacSol SB-X and will be more accurate.

16 1/4 inches in length
1 1/4 pounds
.870" diameter

I started my lil' man with the Ultra-Lt. - Now, at 14 he is still shooting with that barreled action but I bounced it to a full size stock... offhand or on the bench he's equally adept.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:01 AM
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I would get a basic, light weight scope with the same/similar 'crosshairs' to what he has and likes before a barrel. Best bang for the buck in weight reduction for you now.
Imo, the oem tapered carbine barrel is not heavy and plenty accurate for his game.
His muscle tone will quickly improve as well as his comfort level even this year as he does the work becoming proficient.
Just my take after two grandsons.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:03 AM
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If you just want the lightest, a Beyer factory taper @ 250$ is the barrel.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:19 AM
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I built one with an Axiom and a Kidd ULW, and scoped it with a Leupold 2-7x28. Liked it so much I built a second one. Both now wear Nikon 3-9 Rimfire Target scopes, as I found the weight difference of the scopes not nearly as important as the weight difference of the barrels. Getting the balance right is important, and the scope is near the balance point. Mt 7 yo grandaughter is able to shoot it comfortably offhand.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:23 AM
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And the Simmons 22 Mag is a good choice. AO is great at Appleseed's 25m distance. The better he can see, the better he will shoot - immediate feedback helps a bunch.
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A couple options....

Swap out your scope for a Weaver V3 (1-3x). It is a small lightweight scope.

Use a Ruger Charger (or make one) with a pistol brace and a scope.
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https://ruger.com/products/1022Compa...ets/31114.html

4.4lbs...what weight are you looking for?
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KID Ultra-Lt Wt. is $185... $40 cheaper than the TacSol SB-X and will be more accurate.

16 1/4 inches in length
1 1/4 pounds
.870" diameter

I started my lil' man with the Ultra-Lt. - Now, at 14 he is still shooting with that barreled action but I bounced it to a full size stock... offhand or on the bench he's equally adept.
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Old 06-07-2019, 04:44 PM
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Find the lightweight barrel of your choice, and for a small framed child, the Blackhawk Axiom stock is GREAT for smaller people! The length of pull collapses down to around 9.5 inches, and the whole thing weighs barely a pound or so. It's the lightest stock I've ever found, and the collapsible butt makes a smaller kid able to shoulder it comfortably and correctly. You won't find a smaller, lighter, more compact stock. The pistol grip also makes it easier for kids, as it is a more natural fit for them. Absolutely perfect for smaller beginners!

They come in different colors as well. Can often find them for less than $70 and free shipping off Ebay.

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KID Ultra-Lt Wt. is $185... $40 cheaper than the TacSol SB-X and will be more accurate.
and when it isnt, they will replace it with one that only makes the guarantee with $15/box ammo, and to top it off they could care less.

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Old 06-07-2019, 06:37 PM
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KID Ultra-Lt Wt. is $185... $40 cheaper than the TacSol SB-X and will be more accurate.<img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/sthumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Blue Thumb" class="inlineimg" /><img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/sthumb.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Blue Thumb" class="inlineimg" />
and when it isnt, they will replace it with one that only makes the guarantee with $15/box ammo, and to top it off they could care less. <img src="https://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
No offense, I know you know your stuff, but don't you think maybe it's time to give Kidd the benefit of the doubt. I know you got a bad barrel from them ( that they replaced) but it seems the vast majority of Kidd barrels shoot great. I have 4 Kidd barrels now and they are all tack drivers. Not trying to start an argument, I have alot of respect for what you say and have learned alot from your posts. I just think no matter what company it is they're not going to get it right 100% of the time. But at least when they (Kidd) don't they will make good on it.
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No offense taken. I still have 2 Kidds that are tack drivers. But my comment was more to the point that you cant predict which brand barrel will outshoot another. I have chastised for complaining about my 2 bad kidd barrels and their lack of customer service. however, if people are going to make assertions that kidd will outshoot some other brand because they have never had a bad kidd barrel, what makes my experience less valid since I have had good and bad of both? I guess I could just drop it, but since some want me to shut up I think I will just keep letting people know my experience even though it may rub some the wrong way. FWIW, I havent even posted about it in a while, and I gave them the benefit of the doubt for months in order for them to make it right; to the point I asked them if i could drive down there and have them look at my stuff to see what I was doing wrong since I am relatively local, and I also have relatives that live a few miles away from them. But I kept receiving no return emails or returned calls. So I got the hint.

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Axiom stocks, Kidd ULW barrels, Kidd Trigger Job drop-in trigger kits.
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