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Old 02-24-2015, 03:04 PM
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A friend of mine has an old H&R revolver and would like some info on it. Sorry, I don't have a pic at this time, but this is his description: Six inch bbl, H&R on one side of the barrel, Harrington& Richardson on the other side. composite frame with a slight purple hue to the color. It is a top break open , but has no model number. Only says "Sportsman", but resembles a 999. .22 LR. Has a '' birdshead'' style grip. Serial # is 52370.
One gun dealer told him he thought it was made in the mid 30's. Can you folks tell anything from this limited info. RH
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Old 02-24-2015, 07:52 PM
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Double action, right?
According to the current Blue Book, it's probably a Sportsman 999 but doesn't say "999"
That said, there were 8 variations of it. All variations spread from 1932 to 1940 then in 1940 they started using a letter code for the serial number until it ended in 1952
If the barrel markings are on left and right sides it is likely a 6th variation--on earlier variations the barrel markings were on the top of barrel and on the left side but not on the right
Serial numbers went as high as 89761 by 1939 so that one would likely date to the mid 30's as you were told and that jives with the 6th version or variation being made from 1937 to 1939. I'd likely say it was made about 1937, don't know if early or late.
Doesn't say where the serial number would be, but on various H &R's, I've seen them on the frame under the cylinder and on the backstrap under the grips usually on the left side.
Hope this helps--so do photo's if you can get one

I suggest you try up on the Marlin / H&R / NEF forum too

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Old 02-24-2015, 08:52 PM
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How many chambers does the cylinder have ?

7 = H&R Premier and/or H&R Target Model

9 = H&R Sportsman No.199 & Sportsman 999, Ultra Sportsman


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Old 02-25-2015, 12:03 AM
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The H&R 22 Special was also a 9-shot top-break.
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Old 02-26-2015, 08:01 PM
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Birdshead grips on a Sportsman?
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Old 02-26-2015, 10:49 PM
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That's how he described it, but I'll bet it's the ''Rice'' grips. I'll have him bring it by so I can see it and take pics. RH
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Old 02-27-2015, 06:41 AM
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Birds head grips on a Sportsman? That's what the Blue Book says, although they could be wrong--wouldn't be the first time--quote;

SPORTSMAN DOUBLE ACTION MODEL 999 LARGE FRAME TOP BREAK
.22 LR or .22 WRF cal., 7 (.22 WRF cal.) or 9 shot, blue finish, 6 in. ribbed barrel, safety rim cylinder, automatic cylinder stop, adj. rear sight, three different front sights - fixed full blade, Partridge type, and Partridge type pinned to barrel top rib, finger rest trigger guard, one-piece oversized checkered walnut grips, birds-head grip frame (Rice frame), frame mounted firing pin, hammer face is flat, cylinder release is long pivoting lever on right side of frame (there are two different version of this), serial numbered in its own series from 01 up to at least 89761 by the end of 1939, starting in 1940 letter codes were used. Mfg. 1932-1952.
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Old 02-27-2015, 04:54 PM
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if you remove the target grips the frame is a birdshead frome - the purple hue is from refinish , the frame wont take the reblue quite the same , this was my fathers won in a raffle in 1934 , went thru a house fire and refinished , ive gifted this to my godson at this point ,




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Old 02-28-2015, 02:02 PM
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I was thinking of the pointy type birdhead instead of the H&R straight butt which I guess is a birdshead too. I had a 4" NEF years ago with those grips and it was aok.
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Since no one has shown a picture of the "Rice" grip, then I'll show you this one:



...and this one, on a Model 199, Single-Action Sportsman:



...and this one, part of a Model 922:



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Old 02-28-2015, 10:35 PM
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Mine is a Sportsman Double action serial # 84020. I have never taken the grips off now that I think of it....

Yep the "rice" grip. I'm guess 38 or 39 for this one.

I also the smaller framed 22lr "22 Special" where the rear sight is two tiny "ears" on the locking lug.
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Old 03-01-2015, 10:42 AM
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Appropos of not too much, the Rice / Bird's head frame was also used on the 195 USRA and the Defender CF revolver is 32 SW and probably others too
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