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Old 01-05-2018, 09:35 AM
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In my collecting I have come across two elusive M65 Reising .22 rifles. Through my research and forum trolling I have come to this conclusion. Please inform if not correct. USMC orders the M65 for a M1 Garand trainer, left overs were sold to the public with a letter stating H&R will develop a more sporter model, "The General" was next with comb stock, plastic butt plate, etc. Skip ahead a few years, contract for the M58 to be used by the USMC as a M14 trainer. So far no proof on serial number ranges for the original order to the USMC for the M65 Reising during WW2.
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Old 01-05-2018, 01:07 PM
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The contract was for around 6000 Model 65's for the USMC. The 65 is refereed to as "The General. After WWII, H&R made the M165 that had Leatherneck stamped on it. Around 1949 they came out with two more versions, the M150 and M151 Leatherneck's The 150 has open sights and the 151, has the Redfield aperture rear sight. The Mc58 came out in 1958 for use as a trainer. It had the safety moved to where the M1/M14 safety is located, on the trigger guard. I have all these models of H&R Reisings in my collection.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:27 PM
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I believe originally they were trainers for the Relsing Sub-Machine gun in 45 ACP that the Marines adopted and employed in the South Pacific .Later the sights were changed and the location of the safety to be used for other rifle trainers .
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Old 01-05-2018, 06:35 PM
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No, they were never trainers for the Model 50 and 55 subguns. They came out after the USMC had dropped using the Subgun in 1942. They were intended as a M1 Garand trainer which is why they are heavy like the M1. The M50 is much lighter in weight.

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Old 01-05-2018, 10:13 PM
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hmmm , you have found two - i am still looking for the one , how is this fair ? but then again congrats on your fortune ,
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Old 01-05-2018, 10:40 PM
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hmmm , you have found two - i am still looking for the one , how is this fair ? but then again congrats on your fortune ,
actually I have more than that. I have 4 M65's in different serial number range. A couple of M165's, a 150 and a 151. I also have a Mc58, a M60 and a M50. I have a pistol made by Reising in the 1920's along with a Reising marked holster. One of the M65's and the pistol and holster, came out of the Jeff Reising estate. He was the great nephew of Eugene Reising.

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Old 01-08-2018, 08:27 PM
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Good morning,
In my collecting I have come across two elusive M65 Reising .22 rifles. Through my research and forum trolling I have come to this conclusion. Please inform if not correct. USMC orders the M65 for a M1 Garand trainer, left overs were sold to the public with a letter stating H&R will develop a more sporter model, "The General" was next with comb stock, plastic butt plate, etc. Skip ahead a few years, contract for the M58 to be used by the USMC as a M14 trainer. So far no proof on serial number ranges for the original order to the USMC for the M65 Reising during WW2.
n64atlas is correct in his responses.

Other corrections are as follows:

"Left overs" is not quite the correct description. The USMC contracted with H&R for approximately 6000 units. The War Production Board allowed H&R to produce more Model 65's, and sell them to the public following the USMC contract. H&R marketed Model 65's as "The General," but only in print, and the rifles were not marked with that name. The comb stock and plastic buttplate were introduced on the Model 165 ("Leatherneck"), which came out in May, 1945.
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I have eight Model 65's, including the original prototype provided to the USMC for evaluation and test firing of over 100,000 rounds in 1943. I also have a Model 165, two Model 150's, a Model 151, a Model 50 Submachine Gun, and a Reising Pistol from the mid 1920's. (14 Reisings total) n64atlas otherwise has me beat with his Model 60, and Model MC-58.

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Reising M65 Help

Hello all, I'm new to the boards and am having difficulty figuring out how to post a new thread, so I'm putting this here.... I have a Reising M65 #2867. Rifle is in very good condition, only flaw is the front sight ears were taken off at some point. I purchased a replacement from Numrich, but on receipt it appears that it is correct except the ID is quite a bit smaller than my barrel. It is also smooth, and I was under the impression these sights were threaded on. Any help would be appreciated. I figure a trip to a gunsmith is in order. Thanks, Mark
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Old 08-30-2018, 09:42 PM
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What are the differences between the military M65 and the civilian M165? Are the stocks different?
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Old 10-10-2018, 02:50 AM
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the stock is different and the front sight is different. the barrel contour is also thinner on the 165.
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Old 10-27-2018, 12:03 PM
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I started collecting H&R "Leatherneck" rifles after I inherited my dads 150 Ser #171. I now have 4 Leathernecks, 2-150's, a 151, and a 65. But I am also looking for an original stock for one of my 150's since it was damaged in a fire. Any hints as to where I can find one?
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It appears to me that there were two versions of the mdl 150 'sporter', the commonly seen one with a simple trigger guard and just a wood inlet for the magazine and one with 'full bottom metal' (which mine is). I discovered this while trying to find info and parts for my specific gun last year.
In looking carefully over the parts list from Numrich there are two different magazine release spring/levers, a short and long, which may have the mag latching tab in slightly different locations. Discovered that after buying 2 different very nice and rather expensive magazines online that are stamped:
MFG BY
H&R ARMS CO
WORCESTER, MASS
USA
The 5rd has only 22CAL, the 10rd has REISING 22 LONG RIFLE ONLY
Neither of these work in mine as the lock tabs at the back of the mags is 'one block width' lower (toward the mag floor plate) than on my magazine. That is, the bottom edge (the 'catch' edge) of the lock block is 1 7/8" below the mag lips height.
Fwiw, my rifle also has a 'plain' stock; ie, no flutes at the wrist.
I have not found any other info online regarding this as a 'variation' yet it is different from most posted about. The ones that have appeared similar I have not been able to contact the owners to discuss.

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Old 10-17-2019, 12:59 AM
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Mine is marked MOD. 65 - H.& R. REISING 22 CAL
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