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Old 05-02-2021, 10:48 AM
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Installing 54.18MSR into 1710 stock?



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I was wondering if there would be much trouble installing a 54.18MSR rifle into a 1710 stock?


Would one have to redo the entire " inletting " for trigger etc etc?
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Old 05-02-2021, 12:41 PM
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The trigger housing of the 54.18 is probably larger than that of a 1710, but that's not the main issue. The action screws are located very differently on a 54.18 and a 1710, making a stock swap difficult and problematic.

The 54.18 will have action screws located similarly to the 54.30 and 1913 receivers shown below. The 1710 is at the right.

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Old 05-02-2021, 01:49 PM
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There would be much trouble.
Besides assorted inletting, the action screws are not located in the same place.

It's not the first time that someone has had the notion of creating such an ultimate sporter.
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Old 05-02-2021, 03:00 PM
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Oh.. and its a fiberglass stock. Not wood.
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Old 05-03-2021, 04:06 PM
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No problem...

I'm not sure why people keep suggesting no, but I've posted mine several times now. They probably mean you shouldn't bother. I undertook mine as there is no left hand 54 sporter alternative.

It is somewhat involved but it's not complicated. It's amazing what you can get away with with glue. Mine is a shooter as I suspect yours would be. I think I mostly used a Dremmel tool and a drill. I started with a 1907L repeater conversion, hence the aluminum mag well.

It's been a few years but from fading memory and no warranty being offered:

Add pillars for both action screws in front of the trigger. Between the pillars and giant Match action screws I skipped the recoil lug.

The area of the 1710 stock where the 1710 rear action screw went will be occupied by the big 5018 Match trigger. You say inlet, I say hogged out.

I bought a custom trigger blade to locate the blade (down and rearward) where I wanted it. I think the fellow may still have some.

The area for the 5018 safety definitely needs to be opened up and if I did it again I might leave it off but there's plenty of room to fit it.

I was able to use 1710 bottom metal. It needs to be drilled out for the Match action screw diameter, and a new hole drilled in the middle for the relocated action screw.

The barrel channel is another issue if you have the heavy MS barrel and the 1710 stock from a pencil barrel.






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Old 05-03-2021, 04:18 PM
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I'm not sure why people keep saying no,
The OP asked if "there would be much trouble" involved in swapping stocks. Of the two responses prior to yours, not one said no, used that word, or kept saying it. The swap was described "difficult and problematic" and "much trouble."
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Old 05-03-2021, 08:32 PM
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.......... making a stock swap difficult and problematic.
It is neither, an amateur can do it...Tom
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Old 05-04-2021, 01:04 AM
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It is neither, an amateur can do it...Tom
Tom,

A fairly handy and confident DIYer might, but not everyone can. I know shooters who can barely tighten a bolt. Like barrels, we're not all the same.
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:28 AM
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I ment, much more problem then spending $2-300 on a competent gunsmith that does a lot of synthetic stock work
3-4 hours work.

Or would I need to spend $1000.

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Anyone who can install pillars could do it.

I think the skill level required falls far short of a competent gunsmith. As said, I used a drill and a Dremmel.

The very competent Alex Sitman put a round 54 action in a square action stock for me for about $450.

He made a block to fill the square part and then milled for the round receiver.

That was much more complicated and I suspect he would charge less than $450 for yours...Tom



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Old 05-04-2021, 07:15 AM
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It is neither, an amateur can do it...Tom
If it's neither difficult nor problematic, the job must be somewhere between very easy and problem-free and not hard to do and only a few minor problems.

I doubt many Anschutz shooters would trust an amateur to do a 1710/54.18 stock swap. Would you?
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If it's neither difficult nor problematic, the job must be somewhere between very easy and problem-free and not hard to do and only a few minor problems.

I doubt many Anschutz shooters would trust an amateur to do a 1710/54.18 stock swap. Would you?
What do you consider an amateur? aren't we all amateurs I know I am

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Old 05-04-2021, 07:34 AM
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When I said an amateur could (did) do it, I was referring to a DIY scenario.

I don't know where installing pillars falls on the scale of difficulty but that's the hardest part...Tom
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What do you consider an amateur? aren't we all amateurs I know I am

Lee
An amateur is someone you wouldn't want doing any work on your rifle.

More to the point, an amateur is someone with little experience with the job at hand. They usually don't have job-specific tools or access to them or the skills to use them without the risk of mistakes.
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I've done it twice...actually, once using a 54:18 MRS barreled action, and once using a repeating "match" 1427 action. Just follow what Thomasconner describes, and you should have no problems. The recoil lug on the "match" actions are inletted into the stock, compared to the Rem 700-style ones sandwiched on the 1710, so a bit more difficult, but it's mostly a matter of accommodating the larger action screws, and their different position in the two rifles. Didn't the 54:18 receivers also have a different rear tang configuration than that on the 1710s? I can't remember all the details .

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