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Old 05-02-2021, 06:20 AM
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When I was a brand new shooter, I tried adding some lubricant to some Remington Golden Bullets after a similar discussion here. At the time, the claim was that added lubrication helped with accuracy. I tried a couple of different household products: Pledge (lemon fresh scent!), silicone spray, rendered beef fat. Took my couple hundred newly-slippery rounds to the range and shot them through my CZ 455 American.

No measurable accuracy change. Chalked it up to experience. Moved on.
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OP did not tell us what ammo he is using, sounds like he needs to try other brands.
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remember

anyone else remember years back when many posters here recommended using preparation H to lube bullets for improved accuracy ?
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anyone else remember years back when many posters here recommended using preparation H to lube bullets for improved accuracy ?
Yep, I remember. It was supposed to shrink your groups.
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Old 05-02-2021, 08:46 PM
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German made .22 ammo like Norma Tac-22, RWS, and SK all are lubed for you. They function very well in my semi-auto rifles and my wife's semi-auto pistol.
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Following a tip from another thread; I used Johnson's Paste Wax to eliminate leading when shooting Remington Thunderbolts. It worked great for the leading, and also had a noticeable improvement with feeding the sub-par ammo in a Ruger 10/22.

A can is around $8 at any hardware store and would 'lube' many thousands of rounds.

Just dab your fingers in the wax and roll the bullet between your fingers leaving a very thin coat. Might be worth a try...
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I have always been a fan of Thunderbolts. I like that they were 40gn bullets.Right before Remington went belly up I bought three cases of them. About half of the cases were so lead soft they cause severe leading problems. I can't shoot 10 round without leading a barrel up.

I may have to try the Johnson paste wax trick ( already have a can of it ) and see if I can even use these rounds, so far they are not useable. I had never had a leading problem with Thunderbolts before.
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We have a local action rifle league which I have been involved with but I have had lots of feed and extraction problems with the two semi-auto rifles that I shoot. Someone told me that the latest fad in Rimfire Challenge is to lube the ammo with silicone to reduce feed and extraction problems. I am willing to give it a try but not sure what lube to try and the best method of applying it.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Lubricating the bullet is one thing with 22 ammo.

Lubricating the case is not a good idea. When a cartridge is fired, the brass expands and clings to the cylinder wall for an instant when pressure is highest. If the case is lubricated, this doesn't happen and the full force is transferred to the bolt. Not a good thing, especially with blowback semiautos.

One might get away with it with a 22, but lubing cases has been know to cause structural failures in centerfire rifles. Don't do it.

If you're having feeding / extraction problems, fix the actual cause.
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I donít see your point of view. The case will expand, lubed or unlined.


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Lubricating the bullet is one thing with 22 ammo.

Lubricating the case is not a good idea. When a cartridge is fired, the brass expands and clings to the cylinder wall for an instant when pressure is highest. If the case is lubricated, this doesn't happen and the full force is transferred to the bolt. Not a good thing, especially with blowback semiautos.

One might get away with it with a 22, but lubing cases has been know to cause structural failures in centerfire rifles. Don't do it.

If you're having feeding / extraction problems, fix the actual cause.

Your theory holds no water. Most of your foreign ammo comes cover in what we affectionately refer to as wolf snot. No matter how this mid and high end ammo Is packaged the case and bullets are well lubricated.

No failure or injuries related to wolf snot.


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I may have to try the Johnson paste wax trick
I did a bore in a proven weapon to look for CCI-SV accuracy improvement. Your's may easily fare well better than mine, which was worse than w/o.
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Bore lubing or lubing bullets? I've not tried it but some people have used beeswax and tallow based lube on individual bullets or cartridges as an attempted accuracy improvement, don't know about functioning improvements.
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I keep beeswax around for lubing screws and drill bits. Works good and I love the smell of it

Used to sell it to Western Sugar when they were still running steam engines to power plant equipment because it's food safe. My grandpa kept a little block of it in his sail repair kit to lube needles when punching through thick fabric too.

Sometimes old stuff is good stuff!

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KY is ok but Preparation-H will tighten your groups!
Wow!!! 1st PG13 post I've seen. The latter might turn 22lr into 17 HM2....just a thought.
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