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Old 08-03-2020, 11:23 AM
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Is the Savage A17 reliable and accurate?



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Is the A17 worth getting or should I buy a bolt if accuracy is wanted?
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Old 08-03-2020, 12:44 PM
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If you want accuracy I would look for an older Marlin or a CZ . You leave a lot open you do not state what you want to do with this rifle. Be more specific and we can help better.
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:33 PM
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If you want accuracy I would look for an older Marlin or a CZ . You leave a lot open you do not state what you want to do with this rifle. Be more specific and we can help better.
Squirrel, rabbit, and prairie dog hunting mostly with some plinking. I had a bolt savage 17 several years ago it shot good groups, but the mags would not feed full no matter what I did 1st two shots would always hang, 3, 4 and 5 would shoot perfect. I bought 3 more mags everyone did same thing. I called savage they just told me to try more mags.

So with all the trouble I had with it, want something reliable. I like the thought of a semi auto but not if its going to have trouble or not group well like most bolts. I have a friend that has a prairie dog problem and ask me to come shoot some. Problem is I have a 10/22 that is not much of a shooter for accuracy I was thinking of getting new barrel for it. But then remembered how well my 17 HMR shot now leaning on getting a new 17 instead of messing with 10/22 and leaving that for a latter project. I dont have a small center fire at this time like 223. next jump in size is 6.5 cm.
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Old 08-03-2020, 01:38 PM
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I've had a A17 since shortly after they came out, not my most used .17hmr but in 3-400 rounds its given no problems.
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Old 08-03-2020, 02:33 PM
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Pretty much any 17HMR should be accurate enough out of the box for small varmint shooting.
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:36 PM
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I ordered an A17 right after they were announced at Shot Show. It had a horrible trigger and marginal accuracy. It would fire multiple shots with one pull of the trigger. The rotary magazine seems pretty cheap and was awkward to load. I couldn't wait to sell it and did in pretty short order. The newer models probably have some of the kinks worked out and perform better than mine. All that said, I really don't see 17hmr as a real "semi auto" type of caliber like I would a 22lr. I now only shoot bolt action 17hmr and am very happy. No need to "rapid fire" an HMR. If you are considering a 17hmr for rabbits, prairie dogs, coyotes, etc. you may want to consider a 17hornet or a 22hornet. They are both center fire. Ammo isn't terribly expensive and you can reach out to 300+ yards with the 17 hornet and 200-250 with the 22 hornet. Just a thought. Burt
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Old 08-03-2020, 08:50 PM
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I have one in 17 hmr and one in 17hm2. I had to send the hmr back and got a replacement. The replacement was fine. The hm2 I sent back 3 guns and number 4 was a good one. The problem with many people is they do not send junk guns back for repair or replacement, and sell their junk to someone else.
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Buy a cz , the mags are great, the gun is great, 17 hmr is ok.
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I ordered an A17 right after they were announced at Shot Show. It had a horrible trigger and marginal accuracy. It would fire multiple shots with one pull of the trigger. The rotary magazine seems pretty cheap and was awkward to load. I couldn't wait to sell it and did in pretty short order. The newer models probably have some of the kinks worked out and perform better than mine. All that said, I really don't see 17hmr as a real "semi auto" type of caliber like I would a 22lr. I now only shoot bolt action 17hmr and am very happy. No need to "rapid fire" an HMR. If you are considering a 17hmr for rabbits, prairie dogs, coyotes, etc. you may want to consider a 17hornet or a 22hornet. They are both center fire. Ammo isn't terribly expensive and you can reach out to 300+ yards with the 17 hornet and 200-250 with the 22 hornet. Just a thought. Burt

I had an early one and it also had scary issues with the trigger. Plastic trigger assemblies are not cool.
Buy a bolt. Iíve been happy with Savage, Ruger and CZ. Ruger American is one of my favorites. Great magazine and trigger with very reasonable price.


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Old 08-06-2020, 12:34 AM
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I have had no issues with my A17. It is the heavy fluted barrel. I bedded the action and the groups tightened up. Still working with it. When it was brand new, it sometime failed to cycle or double fed, this not with the A17 ammo. I discovered that the rifle does not like to be "limp wristed" and I was shooting it from a Caldwell Stinger rest, not brining it to my shoulder, and I think that was the issue. Now with a some ammo through it, it cycles well with all ammo but does prefer the A17 stuff. It does not match my other .17, a heavy barrel Marlin 917VS. I enjoy mine.
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Old 08-10-2020, 02:44 PM
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Buy a bolt

If you want accuracy buy a bolt gun. I have a CZ and the A17 in 17 HMR. The bolt gun is more accurate. It shoots groups half the size of the A17. I bought the CZ first, then Walmart had a clearance on those A17 for $99; so I bought one for my wife and she loves it. The A17 has a horrible and cheap trigger. It looks like some engineer took the spring and lever off of a mouse trap and slapped it on the gun. The factory magazine also has a tendency to depart from the gun, too. But my A17 has been 100% reliable. I would not have bought the gun if it was not on clearance for $99.
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+1 on getting a bolt gun. If you're on a budget, look at the Rossi RB17, and read the reviews. I just bought one in 22 Magnum.
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Is the A17 worth getting or should I buy a bolt if accuracy is wanted?
I have an A17 sporter barrel synthetic stock currently and its a blast to shoot for sure, mine was decently accurate (3/4in at 50yds) out of the box - but as always with any gun i own i felt the itch to try and "enhance" the accuracy.. long story nutshelled i had the barrel and receiver cryogenically treated, added 2lbs of calcium carbonate sand (reptile sand) to the buttstock because its 55% more dense than play sand, bedded the action, 10min patriotic paint job, and stippled all the grips, its FRIGGIN AWESOME now!! The A17 is a gun that DOES NOT do well with free recoil, you'll need to shoulder it, but after i filled the rear with sand it was a little more rigid and was definitely more forgiving if i didn't shoulder it good.. mine was just a cheap fun experiment turned out GREAT 👍...the groups are with CCI 17gr vmax, 3-shot (3/8in) and a 5-shot (1/2in)
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The A17 is the correct prescription for prairie dogs. Does the A17 group slightly larger than some bolt rifles? Yes. Is it a practical difference when hunting? No. There is no match grade 17 HMR ammunition, all gun/ammunition combinations will be precise hunting grade at best.

Group size shifts from ammo lot to lot. The rifle needs a couple boxes through it to really settle in and shoot good groups. It is reliable out of the box but not as accurate. Iíve been a fan since getting a sporter barrel in a synthetic stock about 8 months after its launch. I plink at shotgun hulls at 45-50 yards. Prairie dog one shot drops are 175-250yards wind dependent. The sporter doesnít seem to suffer heat issues like dogging with a 223. The heavy barrel in the boyds does group better. Field stripping could be better, you may have to remove the scope every 500 A17 rounds to grease the bolt. The banana magazines are too long for my A17 on a table. If you can fit and legally use the banana magazines, they will save your thumbs.

The key to loading is to lock back the bolt before inserting the magazine, listen for the click, drop the bolt with full force.
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I love mine. I had a 77/17 years ago for prairie dogs and always wanted a semi auto version but volquartzen was the only option at that time. My A17 with the thumbhole stock, Grouped just over 1/2“ at 50 yards with a bipod and no rear bag.

The magazine was the old style with known issues so I called savage and they immediately offered to send me a newer style replacement magazine.

Glass Bedding it might make it more accurate but I’m happy with it so far!
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