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Old 10-28-2020, 12:55 PM
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Each week, weather permitting, a group of we old retired guys get together and shoot a "cheap ammo" .22 rimfire match. Yesterday there were five of us and there were three Anschutz rifles on the line plus a Suhl 150 and my Walther UIT. Cartridges must cost less than $7 per box. (Cost before the Covid-19 panic buying and price gouging)

Our target was the IBS centerfire 100 yard target with a center ring of 1/2 inch and the next ring 1 inch in diameter. Shot at 100 yards, we use the 1/2 inch ring as the X-ring and the 1 inch ring as the 10 ring. Cheap ammo and a bit of wind makes it a tough match. Until yesterday a score in the high 230's was good and a 240 was almost assured to win.

One of our competitors yesterday used his older Anschutz and Geco Semi-Auto cartridges ($3.50 a box when bought) to shoot a 250-8X. That's five consecutive 5-shot groups of 1 inch or better at 100 yards with cartridges costing 7 cents each. That's not likely to be bested any time soon. Remarkable shooting IMO.

FWIW, I used the same cartridges to shoot a 242-6X in my Walther UIT rifle. On most days, that would have been a winner... but not yesterday. It was good for second.
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Old 10-28-2020, 01:28 PM
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We have our group here that shoot once a week. (old guys) We shoot 50 yds. with the 50 yrd IBS target. Any ammo, you see geco, sk, wolfe, center x etc. Most are Win 52's, some Rem 37 & 40x, Sako & cz. Sometimes for fun a Mossy, Marlin, Savage, Martini or whatever. We love to shoot, exchange info & BS. Fun in the golden years!
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:50 PM
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Don't want to rain on some good shooting but if you score best edge groups can be as large as almost 1 1/2" with a 1" 10 ring.
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Old 10-28-2020, 04:52 PM
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We have our group here that shoot once a week. (old guys) We shoot 50 yds. with the 50 yrd IBS target. Any ammo, you see geco, sk, wolfe, center x etc. Most are Win 52's, some Rem 37 & 40x, Sako & cz. Sometimes for fun a Mossy, Marlin, Savage, Martini or whatever. We love to shoot, exchange info & BS. Fun in the golden years!
That's our Retired Old People (ROP) group to a "T". We have a great time shooting and BSing. We usually shoot on Tuesdays or Wednesdays depending upon weather.

On Saturday club match days that are open to everyone, we shoot twice monthly. We shoot 100 yards first and then the IBS target at 50 yards at the next match. In those matches any cartridge may be used and even with high dollar stuff, no one has yet shot a 250 at 100 yards.
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:06 PM
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Don't want to rain on some good shooting but if you score best edge groups can be as large as almost 1 1/2" with a 1" 10 ring.
If you have two shots just touching the 10 ring exactly 180 degrees apart, the largest the group will be is 1.224" center-to-center. That's under 1 1/4 inches.

I have scored more than two hundred of these targets shot at 100 yards and fully 1/3 of them were shot with match rifles using high dollar cartridges. This is the first one to score 250 and it was done with cheap ammo. It was excellent shooting.
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:35 PM
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No doubt it was excellent shooting. The element of chance also plays a role as inexpensive ammo can never be counted on to become the first to score so well.
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Old 10-28-2020, 09:07 PM
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No doubt it was excellent shooting. The element of chance also plays a role as inexpensive ammo can never be counted on to become the first to score so well.
Absolutely correct on both counts. An element of luck was involved but the man who shot it is also an experienced and excellent benchrest competitor. I was amazed to see anyone shoot a 250 and I doubt it'll be done again anytime soon even with top drawer cartridges.
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Congrats ! To the shooter of the 250 and to you all from one old guy to another .
Sounds like a great time !
We try to shoot once a week .
I canít get my shooting buddy , my older brother ( about to turn 74 next week) to much more than shoot soup cans at 100 . But we have a good time .
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Old 10-29-2020, 01:45 AM
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Congrats ! To the shooter of the 250 and to you all from one old guy to another .
Sounds like a great time !
We try to shoot once a week .
I canít get my shooting buddy , my older brother ( about to turn 74 next week) to much more than shoot soup cans at 100 . But we have a good time .
Having a good time is what it's all about and if soup cans at 100 yards does it, I'm all for it. We try all kinds of things to keep things interesting and everyone has fun.
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Old 10-29-2020, 07:24 AM
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That really is remarkable.

I remember when I was shooting rimfire benchrest.

a five shot 1 inch group usually belonged to the winner and he generally had top dollar ammo.
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No doubt it was excellent shooting. The element of chance also plays a role as inexpensive ammo can never be counted on to become the first to score so well.
Absolutely correct on both counts. An element of luck was involved but the man who shot it is also an experienced and excellent benchrest competitor. I was amazed to see anyone shoot a 250 and I doubt it'll be done again anytime soon even with top drawer cartridges.
Here’s a pair of 249’s at 100 yds with a 1411 and CX. (One inch 10 ring). A 250 remains elusive...

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Old 10-29-2020, 09:11 AM
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If you have two shots just touching the 10 ring exactly 180 degrees apart, the largest the group will be is 1.224" center-to-center. That's under 1 1/4 inches.

I have scored more than two hundred of these targets shot at 100 yards and fully 1/3 of them were shot with match rifles using high dollar cartridges. This is the first one to score 250 and it was done with cheap ammo. It was excellent shooting.
Sorry I was thinking group measuring out to out.
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Old 10-29-2020, 11:17 AM
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Cattleman30, those are two excellent targets; great shooting by any measure.

It's one thing to shoot the occasional one inch group at 100 yards with a .22 rimfire but quite another to shoot four and a fifth that barely misses one inch. You done good.
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Old 10-29-2020, 12:40 PM
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This is some excellent shooting, far better than I can do,,

but, as far as the chance that someone can do better,,,
I was taught in school, that, given enough time, enough monkeys, enough paper, and enough typewriters,,
a group of monkeys, randomly beating on the keys of the typewriters, would, without error type the entire contents of the 1965 printing of the 27 volume Encyclopedia Britannica,,,



So, it appears that a monkey could outshoot ANY of these targets!!


LOL!!
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Old 10-29-2020, 01:15 PM
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Hereís a pair of 249ís at 100 yds with a 1411 and CX. (One inch 10 ring). A 250 remains elusive...
I am correct reading that's a 200yd target, larger than the IBS 100yd version ?
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