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Old 10-08-2020, 07:17 PM
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"Not everyone has access to a 200 yard range, but most have access to a 100"

No, a broad assumption on your part. I do not have access to 100 yd range. Just saying ....
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Old 10-08-2020, 08:20 PM
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Not a broad assumption, Jack.
My comment is based on what is available in each state using the range search program.
Yes, you might have to drive a bit further than you prefer, but there are a large number
of rifle ranges and the majority offer 50 and 100 yard facilities. Whether or not you
choose to avail ye'rself of those facilities or to attempt a 50 at 100 is a personal decision.

https://www.wheretoshoot.org/

If you only have access to a 50 yard range, no reason you couldn't start a 50 at 50 is there?

I wouldn't mind seeing results from that one.

Probably be more more useful as a reference tool regarding rimfire trajectory consistency
than those 5 shot wallet groups posted along with that famous phrase..."all day long".

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Old 10-08-2020, 10:28 PM
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Well had hoped to shoot my 17 today, had a doctor visit and was dizzy enough that I couldn't drive.... so had the wife drop me off to do 50 at 100 with my 1022. Have always found the best solution to medication induced vertigo is target practice.

Nothing makes for interesting groups like serious inner ear issues. On the bright side my groups were easily repeatable "all day long" . .. . Just picture t shot at 100 through a modified choke 12 gauge. Would give a measure on a pic but my tape measure wasn't in the truck and my phone doesn't have a wide angle lens.

Wife asked how it went, honestly I needed bigger paper....

Hopefully tomorrow is a better day and we'll try it again.
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Old 10-08-2020, 11:49 PM
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Well had hoped to shoot my 17 today, had a doctor visit and was dizzy enough that I couldn't drive.... so had the wife drop me off to do 50 at 100 with my 1022. Have always found the best solution to medication induced vertigo is target practice.

Nothing makes for interesting groups like serious inner ear issues. On the bright side my groups were easily repeatable "all day long" . .. . Just picture t shot at 100 through a modified choke 12 gauge. Would give a measure on a pic but my tape measure wasn't in the truck and my phone doesn't have a wide angle lens.

Wife asked how it went, honestly I needed bigger paper....

Hopefully tomorrow is a better day and we'll try it again.
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Old 10-10-2020, 07:01 AM
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How about that... it's a Saturday and it ain't raining.

Range gear is loaded in the vehicle, 22wmr Feddersen Fuglie is aboard.
Good morning to see what 30 grain CCI Vmax and 40 grain Maxi-Mags can accomplish.
People keep claiming the 22wmr is capable of consistent MOA at 100 yards.
We will see. Instigator? Who? Me?

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Old 10-10-2020, 08:14 AM
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I'm going to check later to see how you did. It's been a lot of years since I owned a 22 mag rifle and I never got it to shoot a 1" group at 100 yards. 1 1/4" or so was the best it ever managed. I bet the ammo is no better today than it was back then.
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Old 10-10-2020, 08:25 AM
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Somehow, I missed this whole thread.

Hold on. I'll be back.
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I'm going to check later to see how you did. It's been a lot of years since I owned a 22 mag rifle and I never got it to shoot a 1" group at 100 yards. 1 1/4" or so was the best it ever managed. I bet the ammo is no better today than it was back then.
Some say it is but maybe they're the lucky ones?
I have all? the rf rifles, with ammo in current availability including the 5MM and 17WSM, but no 22Mag. I'll live.
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Old 10-10-2020, 01:35 PM
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CCI 30 grain V-Max 22wmr rated 2200 fps



CZ 455 Feddersen Fuglie barrel block, set trigger, Mueller 8-32x 44 target reticle
That is 18 lbs of inertia and stability...makes testing ammo very simple.
No skill required.



Results at 100 yards holding a single aimpoint for 50 shots
1.7 inches of vertical, 2 inches of horizontal...definitely not sub-moa.



Visual inspection showed variations in seating depth, overall cartridge length
and several bullets seated at an angle/visibly tilted relative to the case mouth.
Rolling on a flat surface showed tip wobble.

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Old 10-10-2020, 01:52 PM
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CCI Maxi-Mag 40 grain hollow point rated 1875 fps




CZ 455 Feddersen Fuglie



Results 3.6 inches of vertical, 1.7 inches of horizontal



Better than Crackerjacks...three surprises in that box.

Irregular seating depths, tilted seating, varying cartridge dimensions,
typical CCI production.

Now that I've set the bar nice and low for 22wmr results,
I wonder if anyone has put their hands on some cartridges that can do better?
Shouldn't be too difficult.

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Old 10-10-2020, 04:02 PM
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Whereís the target pic for the 40 grain hollow points ?
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Old 10-10-2020, 04:03 PM
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CCI 30 grain V-Max 22wmr rated 2200 fps



CZ 455 Feddersen Fuglie barrel block, set trigger, Mueller 8-32x 44 target reticle
That is 18 lbs of inertia and stability...makes testing ammo very simple.
No skill required.



Results at 100 yards holding a single aimpoint for 50 shots
1.7 inches of vertical, 2 inches of horizontal...definitely not sub-moa.



Visual inspection showed variations in seating depth, overall cartridge length
and several bullets seated at an angle/visibly tilted relative to the case mouth.
Rolling on a flat surface showed tip wobble.
I could live with that group from a hunting rifle .
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Old 10-10-2020, 06:06 PM
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I'm going to have to resize the images for the 40 grain CCI.
Too high the resolution and the server times out.
I'll get it fixed Kirby. Stupid computers.


Easy enough to resize/rename the images.
Took the image resolution down so each image size is less than 100 kb.
Looks like it solved the problem.


I agree with ya' Kirby...the 22wmr makes for a very useful hunting cartridge.
Flatter trajectories, more oomph on impact, ideal for center of critter.
It's just not going to be a "sub-moa all day long cartridge at 100 yards" for paper punching,
not even from that 1 piece barrel block monstrosity I use for ammo testing.

I'm hoping someone has a better batch of 22wmr and will send a box for us.
It'd be enjoyable to see that one of the manufacturers gets it right once in a while.

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Old 10-10-2020, 09:07 PM
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I enjoy looking at the groups .
Hard for me to visualize 3.6 inches of vertical, 1.7 inches of horizontal .
Sometimes a couple of fliers can be the difference between 3.6Ē of vertical and 2Ē .
Someday Iím going to start back going to the range and Iíll shoot a couple targets for this .

The Firearm Hunters will be all over the range until the firearms deer season starts next weekend. Got to sight those rifles in that havenít been shot since last season .
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Old 10-11-2020, 11:51 AM
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The rounds out of the black are on me. I was rushing to complete before the cease fire was called.
Next time I will try different brands of bulk

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