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Old 08-15-2018, 03:14 PM
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How badly does the 25 rf caliber detract from the value of this gun. It appears unmolested. Great color case hardening. Couple of places of blue problems on the barrel near the receiver. Good bore.
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Old 08-15-2018, 03:21 PM
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Depends.....
To a purist collector shootability and bore condition may not matter. To me, not being able to get ammo (Ive heard of odd runs of it but it has poor reports as to quality) is a huge liability. Any valuation due condition would have to be discounted to cover relining the bore to 22rf.
Btw, a friend has done some 25rf guns and been able to utilize the existing block and firing pin as the ‘hit’ was still in the zone for the 22 cal. One MUST check, though, and not assume it always will be the case.
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:29 AM
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I have 10 14-1/2 in 22lr which was invented by Stevens. They range from great to fair condition but no broken or cracked stocks so even the fair ones can be made very nice. I had to buy them all to get a 418 Walnut Hill 22lr in superb condition. Walnut Hill & Creedmoor were ranges in New York many years ago when shooting was as big a short as golf is now.

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I had one like yous. I sleeved the barrel and had a nice 22 mag. shooter.
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Old 08-18-2018, 07:57 PM
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The answer is how much does removing the shooting potential from a gun matter? How much is a wall hanger worth? To me, about 1/3 of what one in a shootable caliber are worth.
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Old 08-19-2018, 12:48 AM
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If you are looking for a shooter it's not worth a lot. If you are a collector and want one to fill a slot in your collection it's worth more. I picked up mine cheap because the seller thought it was an regular 44. I have used .27 caliber power loads and breach seated bullets in mine. Work fine. Sometimes have to use a cleaning rod to get the emptys out. Accuracy is as good as the Canadian ammo form the '70's. I finaly accumulated all the variations. .22 Long rifle, .22 Short, .22 WRF, and .25 Stevens. Paid the most for the .22 WRF and the least for the .25 Stevens. Still looking for a 417 in .22 WRF and .25 Stevens. Have a barrel for a .25 Stevens so I know they exist. I'm guessing someone rebarreled the .25 Stevens.
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Walnut Hill was and still is in Woburn, Massachusetts outside of Boston. Also known as Mass Rifle Association.

http://www.massrifle.com/index.php?o...d=65&Itemid=96
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25 Stevens

Came across his thread about shooters vs. lookers.

I had an old Stevens Model 44 Refinished , it had gotten
to the value of shooter not collector and I left it
in the Original .25 Stevens Rimfire .

Why ?
1. Plenty of .22 lr's around I don't need any more .
2. I love shooting 25 Stevens .
3. I have More Short & Long .25 rf than I'll ever shoot out of it.
4. I still value it More n the Original Calibre than Re-Sleeved.

I like Lookers which can be Shot .
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Fwiw, regarding using power blanks to propel breech seated bullets:
I have a friend that used to work for Olin Corp in sales, he was very up on the blanks and a shooter. We discussed this very thing as I had traded into 3 Stevens rifles, 2 in 25rf.
He said dont do it, iirc it was because even the lowest power blank has more breech pressure, and a completely diff/faster pressure curve, than the proper cartridge. And the Stevens rim fire models are not the strongest in design or metallurgy.
So I didnt, I have an aversion to things blowing up in my face.

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That's One NICE looking Shooter!!!

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That's One NICE looking Shooter!!!
Hey Thnkz man , a real dream to shoot
takes me back to when all my shooting
was ''Open'' sights .

I have the trigger pull down at 500 gr / 18 oz.

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Old 11-25-2021, 09:07 PM
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I've used low power .27 nail gun loads and breech loaded bullets in a .25 418 Walnut Hill with no problems. Sometimes have to use a cleaning rod to tap them out. I wouldn't use them in the low end boys rifles but the 418 should not be a problem.
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Remember that none of these are real 'falling block actions', they are 'swinging block' with NO rear support of the block when in battery depending entirely upon the over-center action of the small link (between the lever and breechblock) and its small pins.
I have seen pins severely bent and a breech block cracked on the larger, stronger but same design 44 action.
The only Stevens similar design that had rear swinging block support, and better metallurgy was their centerfire versions of the model 44.
The Stevens 44 1/2 was a different critter, it was a true falling block every bit the equal to the Win. 1885.
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