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Old 05-19-2021, 06:55 PM
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Question Anyone have "cant" issues with Leupold 11mm Ringmounts # 54231 on CZ 455 / CZ 457 ?



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By "cant" I mean tilting to one side when mounted on the 11mm dovetail of a CZ 455 / CZ 457.

My research indicates that there should be no problem -- but it can't (no pun intended) hurt to query the "hive mind".
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:03 PM
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No photo I could find.

Sorry, I could not find a photo. I am not sure what you are talking about. If the scope is above the bore, centerline to centerline but the scope is rotated so the cross hairs are not as they should be, the center will be fine but using the lines for holding over etc. will be a problem. If the scope itself is not above the bore but otherwise on straight, you can use it but there will be some problems you don't get if it is mounted above. Think of scopes mounted on an M1 Garand, they were off to the left a good distance and yet served well for the snipers who used them. Good luck.

After posting, your photos came through. With those type rings when you snug them up they can get off center a bit. Trial and error. See which way they want to go and compensate. After mounting, go shoot it. It might not really matter much.

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Old 05-19-2021, 07:13 PM
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Thanks, David Valdina; that is very helpful information.

The salient bit is, "when you snug them up they can get off center a bit".
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Happy I could contribute.

capeboer, I have been to your country once and had a great time. Simon Rood was our P.H. in the Transvaal. I was there two weeks and he took us on a few day trip to Kruger. I have fond memories.
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Yes, use something else.
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Yes, use something else.
I second this. Offset glass will drive you nuts when you dial for range, or have to remember which way to favor depending on your holds.

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If you can find a DIP dovetail to picatinny mount it would be much better.

https://www.diproductsinc.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3655

If you don't dial multiple distances slightly offset isn't a big deal, I've used the DIP mounts and highly recommend them. I just saw a mount in the classified section on the site at a good price.

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Flip the securing claws, one side is 3/8 the other is 11mm. They come set for 3/8,
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Old 05-20-2021, 02:52 AM
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Glad to hear you had a good time over here, David. Kruger remains a gem -- especially in the evenings when the camelthorn coals are smouldering under the braai and the stars are so close you can touch them. Always reminds me of Psalm 8.

Thanks motovita, rockster, Topstrap44 and TURK22.

TURK22, would you say that using the "correct" side of the securing claws solves the cant issue 100% ?
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110%.😅
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Yes I would echo what others have said said said......

Get different rings, I have had both these and the B square mounts and the hassle of "tweaking the scope to be slightly canted in order to counteract the offest mounts is a real headache.

It is made slightly easier if you have a spirit level and collimator.

Alternatively Talley split rings although I'm not a fan of split rings or you could try Sportsmatch alloy Airgun rings.

The Sportsmatch are actually quite good and I use them nowadays they center perfectly and are light. Actually the UK police force uses them too so they cant be bad.

https://www.sportsmatch-uk.com/
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Old 05-20-2021, 09:52 AM
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It’s possible that the only “cant” w/ Leupold rings is that some people “can’t” mount them properly.😅
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It’s possible that the only “cant” w/ Leupold rings is that some people “can’t” mount them properly.😅
Ii's also possible that some people "can't" tell the difference detween good and poor fitting scope rings.
The lower your standards, or expectations, the less disappointment you will experience.

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Old 05-20-2021, 02:25 PM
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From what I've gathered, it seems that even when these rings are mounted properly, there is still a (small) amount of cant/offset involved.

Would like to hear more comments on this aspect/scenario.

Yes, one can compensate; but if there is a way around it (e.g. with a Picatinny rail), then there is a way around it.
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Here's a pic of the old style before the design change over a decade ago.


The problem that I could see with the redesign was that the side clamp is not tall enough. You can tighten the clamp slightly off the rifle and set them on a flat surface and see that they don't even sit level.
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