As many of you know I, among others, have been pushing for a new class of 10/22. Many of our members have built "ultimates" over the years to the point of it being almost boring. No offense meant here but as I saw posted recently " anybody with an allan wrench, a screwdriver and a soft hammer can build and Ultimate" and while that may be over simplified it is somewhat true. And what do you get? A somewhat impractical, heavy, accurate semi auto with a stock that looks like the loser in an old fashion taffy pull. So lets answer a few questions first the most obvious being:
Why SuperStock?
1. A number of reasons, First I saw too many really neat old walnut stocked, metal butt plated vintage 10/22's being torn apart to build an Ultimate, If you insist on building these (and there is NOTHING wrong with building one) PLEASE don't use cool old vintage guns to do it.
2. I'm not sure how much you learn bolting together an Ultimate. You will learn much more about what makes a rifle shoot well by building a SuperStock. Alot of what you are given in a "Kit" gun you will need to figure out in a SuperStock.
3. Cost. I am disabled and money is short. I would guess there are a number of folks here that don't have an over abundance of money. When you build an SuperStock it is very easy to spend $10 here and $25 there instead of having to come up with larger chunks of money at a time (Stock $$$$, Barrel$$$$) Now I'm sure that some of you will invent ways to spend just as much on your SuperStock as any Ultimate BUT you don't HAVE to and you can do it in smaller chunks. Many things on a SuperStock will be practically free if you are handy at all and even those among you that are NOT that handy we have a number of folks like sawdust and Skeeter and others (even myself :bonk: ) That will be MORE than willing to share their knowledge.
4A. Rules.........not many. I'm not sure we even WANT this to be a competitive class although that is open for discussion. One thing that if I am going to be part of the leadership on this that I am going to INSIST on is that ALL RFC rules are followed in the posting and that we treat each other like ladies and gentlemen. We will NOT get into name calling and bickering if we disagree. The panic button ! will get pushed if you get nasty.
4B. Rules.... What is a SuperStock? What rules do we need. Obviously if it is a Competitive RFC Email Class than more strict rules may be needed. But most of us will be building a very practical squirrel gun, Rabbit blaster, paper puncher or plinker deluxe. Lets keep this fun with as few rules as is possible.....but that is just MY opinion. What is yours? What do you think? Where do YOU want this to go?
5. The guns. What do you think? I think if it started life as a 10/22 it is in. Carbine, Rifle, Compact, All weather, Wally World Special.....who cares? Here's a thought....how about our brothers and sisters with Marlin 60,70, 75 are they in? Can they play the SuperStock game? WHY NOT? Or just Rugers? SuperStock? Why not? I personally see NO reason the make this a one gun class. Do you? If so, why?
6. Do we need a forum for this? Some of you are already pushing hard to have a place for our NEW CLASS. What does SUPPORT and ADMIN think? would it be a burden on them. Can somebody help them with that end. I have free time and if needed could help with this forum to get it off the ground and maintained.
I hope you have noticed that for the most part I have NOT said "This how it will be" because this is NOT mine....IT is OURS. Lets do something fun, not controversial, together. Let's infest it with all the GOOD things that RFC is. Let's help each other build a fun bunch of cool little rifles and have great time doing it. Let's not forget our Sponsors either. They help us keep RFC going so let's get them involved. Okay.....there it is...........
EDIT: Change name from SuperStock 10/22 to SuperStock to better reflect the emphasis of this thread.
Why SuperStock?
1. A number of reasons, First I saw too many really neat old walnut stocked, metal butt plated vintage 10/22's being torn apart to build an Ultimate, If you insist on building these (and there is NOTHING wrong with building one) PLEASE don't use cool old vintage guns to do it.
2. I'm not sure how much you learn bolting together an Ultimate. You will learn much more about what makes a rifle shoot well by building a SuperStock. Alot of what you are given in a "Kit" gun you will need to figure out in a SuperStock.
3. Cost. I am disabled and money is short. I would guess there are a number of folks here that don't have an over abundance of money. When you build an SuperStock it is very easy to spend $10 here and $25 there instead of having to come up with larger chunks of money at a time (Stock $$$$, Barrel$$$$) Now I'm sure that some of you will invent ways to spend just as much on your SuperStock as any Ultimate BUT you don't HAVE to and you can do it in smaller chunks. Many things on a SuperStock will be practically free if you are handy at all and even those among you that are NOT that handy we have a number of folks like sawdust and Skeeter and others (even myself :bonk: ) That will be MORE than willing to share their knowledge.
4A. Rules.........not many. I'm not sure we even WANT this to be a competitive class although that is open for discussion. One thing that if I am going to be part of the leadership on this that I am going to INSIST on is that ALL RFC rules are followed in the posting and that we treat each other like ladies and gentlemen. We will NOT get into name calling and bickering if we disagree. The panic button ! will get pushed if you get nasty.
4B. Rules.... What is a SuperStock? What rules do we need. Obviously if it is a Competitive RFC Email Class than more strict rules may be needed. But most of us will be building a very practical squirrel gun, Rabbit blaster, paper puncher or plinker deluxe. Lets keep this fun with as few rules as is possible.....but that is just MY opinion. What is yours? What do you think? Where do YOU want this to go?
5. The guns. What do you think? I think if it started life as a 10/22 it is in. Carbine, Rifle, Compact, All weather, Wally World Special.....who cares? Here's a thought....how about our brothers and sisters with Marlin 60,70, 75 are they in? Can they play the SuperStock game? WHY NOT? Or just Rugers? SuperStock? Why not? I personally see NO reason the make this a one gun class. Do you? If so, why?
6. Do we need a forum for this? Some of you are already pushing hard to have a place for our NEW CLASS. What does SUPPORT and ADMIN think? would it be a burden on them. Can somebody help them with that end. I have free time and if needed could help with this forum to get it off the ground and maintained.
I hope you have noticed that for the most part I have NOT said "This how it will be" because this is NOT mine....IT is OURS. Lets do something fun, not controversial, together. Let's infest it with all the GOOD things that RFC is. Let's help each other build a fun bunch of cool little rifles and have great time doing it. Let's not forget our Sponsors either. They help us keep RFC going so let's get them involved. Okay.....there it is...........
EDIT: Change name from SuperStock 10/22 to SuperStock to better reflect the emphasis of this thread.
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