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Old 06-30-2019, 12:02 PM
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Geco Rifle 40 grain 22lr rated 1083 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair





Tailwind messed with me, ES of 63 fps, practice ammo
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Old 06-30-2019, 12:09 PM
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Geco Match 22lr 40 grain 22lr rated 1083 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair





81 fps ES, when that low one dropped in I checked the chrony, 1035 fps.

6 fail to fires, extracted, rotated, bang on second or third try.

If Match is on the box, it really ain't.

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Old 06-30-2019, 12:17 PM
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Wolf Match Target 40 grain 22lr rated 1085 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair



ES not bad, tailwind and turbulence caught me multiple times.

two fail to fires, bang on second try
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Old 06-30-2019, 12:21 PM
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Wolf Match Extra 40 grain 22lr

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair





27 fps ES is quite good, but couldn't keep me from misjudging wind/turbulence.
Tailwinds make it difficult to time the squeeze. I try but don't always do it correctly.
In this case, I mis-timed it a lot. Should have been a sub 4 inch group.

3 fail to fire, rotated, bang on second try.
Checked the bolt face and breech, no gsr build up.
Pulled the bolt apart, firing pin and inside of bolt still clean.
Deep pin strikes on the brass, looks to be unevenly applied primer.

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Old 07-01-2019, 09:20 AM
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Interesting, and a bit surprising, to see the FTF's with both the Wolf MT and ME. In the past, they've both been very reliable for me. Good for short range practice, at the very least.

And, again, thank you jaia, for the comprehensive ammo testing. Not sure if anything else like this exists on the internet, at the present.

Mike
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Old 07-02-2019, 08:00 AM
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Mike....I still want you to add a few prone results to this thread.
I may lack the ability, but from what you've shown so far, you don't have that problem.


Fail to fires have been showing up with quite a few of the rimfire products.
Most will fire on the second try when rotated 120 from the original position.
Not the rifle to blame.The 455 is designed to fire magnum rimfire cartridges.
Leaves deep clear strikes in the 22lr rims.
Go several boxes of 50 with no problems.
Then hit a box that lacks evenly distributed primer.
Annoying as heck. Have to extract the unfired round, which on the Lilja EPS chamber ain't easy.
I slide a cleaning rod in through the muzzle to press it out.
Extractors won't pull the unfired bullet out as the nose is engraved by the lands.
I've had it happen with the cheapest and the most expensive 22lr cartridges.

Makes me wonder if this a manufacturing problem, or a shipping/handling problem?
Slamming the pallets around during transit, might jar the primer loose.

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Old 07-05-2019, 12:29 PM
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And the winner of least accurate 22lr ammunition goes to.....



CCI 21 grain Copper-22 - lead free 22 lr, rated 1850 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair



2073 fps MV high, 1996 average, 1940 low, 1 case rupture.



Yep, lame as lame can be.

3 shots at 50 yards, almost 6 inches of spread



Couldn't even stay on a 36 inch by 36 inch backer at 200 yards.
Sent 20 at 200, only 6 hit where I could see 'em, so I moved over to the 100 yard range.



Not the rifle, not me, not the wind, shot 5 other targets at 200 yards,
nowhere near as bad as this, which was shot at 100 yards.

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Old 07-06-2019, 11:02 AM
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CCI Clean 40 grain Polymer coated 22lr rated 1235 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja Sinclair




Ammunition quality is everything.
The further the bullet travels increases the effects caused by asymmetric projectiles.
After inspecting this box for cartridge defects, I wasn't surprised by the results.
Would you be?





Irregular cartridge dimensions, asymmetric bullets, canted seating, 70 fps ES
and the results were still better than that produced by the CCI Copper 22.

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Old 07-07-2019, 08:37 AM
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Mike....I still want you to add a few prone results to this thread.
I may lack the ability, but from what you've shown so far, you don't have that problem.
Okay, will do. Our next 200 yd match is this coming Tuesday and we actually have a favorable weather forecast at this point. So, I'll post the target whether it's good, bad, or indifferent!

In the meantime, here's some pics of the target of my personal best score ever for this match - 394-20X. Shot prone, with a sling, back in 2016 with my Anschutz 1611 and Eley Practice 100 ammo. There's a total of ten rounds in the nine ring - six would be record shots and the remainder are from sighters. Not sure which are which, but I do recall the one that's waaay down at six o'clock was a record shot that just fell from the sky (hey, maybe that's why Eley labels it as "Practice" 100 ).

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Old 07-07-2019, 01:22 PM
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Righteous Mike!
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Old 07-07-2019, 01:25 PM
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Geco Semi-Auto 40 grain 22lr rated 1148 fps

455 Varmint, Lilja, Sinclair





91 fps ES explains the vertical spread.
Horizontal is me mis-timing the squeeze with the quartering headwind.
Swirls caused by the side berms are bloody hard to figure out.

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Old 07-07-2019, 02:59 PM
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Cz with wind and auto match 78 rounds , ruger with cci sv ,50 rounds, both @ 200 yards
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Old 07-07-2019, 04:03 PM
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Are those 9 inch paper plates?

Pretty decent for inexpensive ammunition.
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Old 07-07-2019, 04:13 PM
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8 9/16 paper plates, 3” orange dot
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Old 07-08-2019, 07:49 AM
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With the plate as a reference I'd say you did about as good as could be done with bulk 22lr.
I see about 4 to 5 inches of horizontal and 7 to 8 inches of vertical.
Between wind and cartridge defects, that is about what I'd hope for from my rig.

Does that mat kill the bipod bounce?
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