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Old 07-01-2004, 03:52 AM
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Bushmaster apparently came out with a .22 LR upper for AR-15's, as well as a complete lightweight rifle. Has anyone had any experiences with them, or heard anything about them? Apart from the $750 price tag, the complete rifle sounds interesting.
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Old 07-01-2004, 04:23 AM
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Hawk Tech Arms, one of our board sponsors announced this a little earlier in the sponsor's annoucements https://rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65938


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Old 07-01-2004, 07:09 AM
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You might consider this upper built by CZ.

http://www.model1sales.com/item-deta...31088680089223

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Old 07-01-2004, 11:23 AM
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There's the DPMS uppers too.

The Bushmaster one should be the lightest of the bunch since the recevier is carbon fiber. The complete rifle with CF lower would be really light. I'm not sure I like having to take the buffer & spring out. (The other ones you don't have to.)
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Old 07-01-2004, 01:37 PM
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When I was home I picked up one of these carbon rifles, Sorry but I thought the AR was a toy until I got a little more used to it, those ones REALLY FEEL like toys to me.

I will probably get a 22 upper for my rifle but I doubt I will get the Carbon one. I am hoping Bushmaster comes out with a "real" upper in 22
if not I will buy somone elses.
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Old 07-01-2004, 01:50 PM
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...Sorry but I thought the AR was a toy until I got a little more used to it....
Ha!
That's like saying the M-14 is an overweight hunting rifle!
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:55 PM
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But the M-14 IS overweight... and under-capacitied as well!
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Actually, there are three reasons I'm interested in the Bushmaster complete rifle over another brand's conversion kit:

1. Since my upper body strength is somewhat lacking (I'm currently going to the gym to remedy this), lower weight on .22's really helps me, because there's less fatigue during non-bench shooting, without a noticeable increase in recoil (.22's don't have any to begin with ).
2. I can just buy it as a rifle and be done with it, without having to worry about using two parts by different manufacturers and hoping they work well.
3. It's got both traditional AR sights and a relatively low-profile scope mount, if I ever want to mount optics.
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The Bushmaster Carbon upper will start shipping the 2nd week of July.

I also am looking at it. I looked at the CZ upper, but the cast receiver feels and looks like junk. I was very surprised by the lack of quality considering it is made by CZ (well, at least supposedly made by CZ)

The DPMS upper has many favorible reviews, but when I consider that a DPMS AR15 in general is just a so-so weapon, the .22 upper kind of scares me.
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DPMS makes complete rifles with their .22 uppers too.
http://www.dpmsinc.com/10Browse.asp
The AP4 (M4 style) would be relatively lightweight, but not as light as the Bushmaster.

The DPMS flattops are "standard" height so you'd have more options for optics than with Bushmaster's raised rail. I'd be concerned about a regular scope clearing the non-removable sight on the BM without being up awfully high. Woudn't be an issue with a red dot though.
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I thought a lot about a .22 AR-15, but eventually I came to my senses and realized that I could build a more accurate custom 10/22 for less money.

When I discovered the Kidd 10/22 trigger that pretty much made my decision.

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Suburban,
Yes, it probably only makes some sense to have a .22 AR-15 if you already have the complete lower from another AR.
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i purchased a DPMS rimfire A2 carbine upper.
it's really made an impression on me (see all of my 10/22 stuff for sale in the trading post).

the dpms functions quite well.
it comes in pre or post ban.
just an opinion, but the bushy looks ugly.
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I thought a lot about a .22 AR-15, but eventually I came to my senses and realized that I could build a more accurate custom 10/22 for less money.
You are correct. You can build a hell of an accurate 10/22--and prolly scope it too--for $400. And that price is if you already have an AR lower and just need the top. Double it for a complete rifle.

That said, I, like Plaskon, just love my DPMS .22 upper. It's easily more accurate than either of my (stock barreled) 10/22s. And it's got a cool factor that no 10/22 will ever be able to match! I wouldn't trade it for TWO of those ugly me-too bull-barreled, barracuda-stocked, candy-colored tangerine flaked streamlined 10/22!

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Dedicated .22 Upper

I was thinking of getting the more economic 22 uppers, but I broke down and bought a Compass Lake DCM 22 upper. It cost about the same I paid for my complete DCM Armalite. I'm really happy with it. I'm hoping to compete against the other smallbore shooters here in Hawaii since the wind is so inconsistent at our public range. The groups I'm getting are about as good as those guys with the fancy blooped tubed prone rifles. It came with a brass catcher so I hope they won't be unerved by 5 shot rapid fire strings.
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