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Old 09-28-2010, 06:42 PM
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Notes on my new Savage 6A

The metal looks identical to rsv1mos Westernfield 59A in post 131, even to the staked holes for a side mounted scope, and the single patent.








Manufacturer: Savage 6A
Factory: Utica
Patents: 2094577 (Others pending), right side up (when viewed from the right).
Receiver and sights: Standard gold bead front and dovetailed leaf rear
Barrel: 24 inch, SAVAGE / SAVAGE ARMS CORPORATION / UTICA, N.Y. MADE IN U.S.A / MODEL 6A / CAL. 22 LONG RIFLE SMOKLESS GREASED ONLY
Trigger: Long.
Lifter: Solid with big pin.
Stock: Walnut, reddish finish.
Trigger guard cast aluminum, painted black
Magazine: Tube fed. cutout has bullet shape with rim.
Symbols/Proofs: 12 in a circle.


I've only fired two rounds to check function and feed.

Bob

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Old 10-03-2010, 08:57 PM
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Got a new one for the data:

Savage
Chicopee Falls

2094577, 2224758, 2229093, RE22585, 2271576
22 short long or long rifle
long rifle only as automatic

spring bumper

standard sights
d/t for peep only
flat plug, metal
7 gills

small ribbed charge handle

long trigger

see pics for lifter details

unchecked walnut

Need to do some catching up on this one. Glad to see it's still going. This is how I received this one. Will be a good project.

Rob



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Old 10-04-2010, 08:28 AM
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Hey sas and r3, two great rifles. Keeping them alive.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:17 PM
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Hey sas and r3, two great rifles. Keeping them alive.
Thanks!

I think I got one that's a shooter. I managed to get out yesterday before the wind started up and ran five shots of several types of ammo thru the gun. I did cheat and use a 9x scope, front rest and rear bag. Even with the seven pound plus trigger SK Standard Plus turned in a .304 at 25 yards. Aquila Match Rifle managed .487, The only ammo that was over an inch was CCI Blazer with one flier just outside an inch and Fiocci CRD which had a misfeed/jam and may have mangled the noses of two bullets that were completely out of the rings.

The real surprises were two that I didn't really expect much out of, but just wanted to try out. Aguila Intercepter (40 g /1470 FPS) grouped at .436 and the Aguila SSS (60 grain / 950 fps) that's supposed to need a faster twist rate held in for .679 and no sign of keyholing. That SSS should get some ground squirrels attention, now that they've learned to keep out of pellet gun range in the back yard. Out of that long barrel, the SSS sounds more like a mortar round with the hollow 'FWUMP' instead of a bang. Surprisingly the SSS POI was only about .2 below the standard velocity stuff at 25 yards.

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Old 10-04-2010, 08:46 PM
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Nice rifles, Guys.
Thanks for continuing to contribute to this thread
We now have 35 rifles listed in the DB.
Hud

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Old 10-05-2010, 09:40 AM
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Nice rifles, Guys.
Thanks for continuing to contribute to this thread
We now have 35 rifles listed in the DB.
Hud
Email a copy to me and I'll upload it.

Bob
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:42 PM
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The database update has been posted, link in post #1.

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Old 11-04-2010, 05:51 PM
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Thumbs up

E gunparts has a cross reference chart in the back of there catalog...or at least they used to.

A Revelation model 115 is a Savage Model 46

Manufactured by Savage Arms, Westfield Mass. USA


I read an article in a gun magazine along time ago that in the 50's & 60's Savage & Mossburg made so many guns for other comapnies that if you counted them with all the regular brand name Savages & Mossburgs sold, those two companies combined sold more guns than ALL the other gun companies combined. And yeah i know that sounds unbelievable but they made a ton of private lable guns !

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Old 11-04-2010, 07:43 PM
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And yeah i know that sounds unbelievable but they made a ton of private lable guns !
You can include High Standard in that list.
They made a lot of guns labeled as store brands that they never marketed under their own name.
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Old 11-04-2010, 09:05 PM
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E gunparts has a cross reference chart in the back of there catalog...or at least they used to.

A Revelation model 115 is a Savage Model 46

Manufactured by Savage Arms, Westfield Mass. USA

That cross reference is also on their web page, down at the bottom.

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/

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Old 11-05-2010, 03:17 PM
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High Standard even made a Savage model 6 clone called the model A-102 Sport King and also the Sears model 25.
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Old 01-01-2011, 01:06 PM
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New to the Savage 87A and this forum

Here's my offering.
When I figure out how to post pics, I'll add some.

Manufacturer: Springfield Model 87A
Factory: Chicopee Falls, Mass. U.S.A.
Barrel:Patents: 2094577, 2224758,2223093,RE22585,2271576.
".22 Short Long Or Long Rifle, Long Rifle Only As Automatic"
24" barrel
Bumper: ---- I don't know what this refers to.---
Receiver & Sights: Standard rear sight, front sight missing (replaced)
Solid receiver. d&t'd for peep and scope, not grooved.
Plug: steel, knurled.
8 gills on left, one on right.
Charging Handle: Small grooved.
Trigger Mechanism: Long.
Lifter: Solid. Coil spring.
Stock: Birch ? plain.
Trigger Guard: Cast. Inletted.
Mag: Tube fed, cartridge shaped port
Insp Markings: 130 in oval, 4
Extractors: double (hooks with spring plungers
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Old 01-01-2011, 07:43 PM
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Texxut,

, and thanks for posting the info. on your 87A.
1st addition to the thread for some time.
I'll get entered into the spreadsheet.
What we have been refering to as the "bumper" is the cartridge guide at the top of the receiver. They were spring loaded on early models like yours, solid, or a "V" shaped piece of metal on later models.
Looking forward to pics when you get a chance. You will have to post them thru a host service. I think there is probably a sticky on how to do it somewhere.

Regards, Hud
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Old 01-11-2011, 10:51 PM
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Ranger / Savage Model 6

I was taking my 9 year old to the country to shoot a couple of weekends back, and my dad pulled out my grandfather's old .22 and gave it to me for my son to shoot. I wasn't sure what it was, and my research led me to this fantastic website. It fires great, only problem was that it jammed whenever I tried to feed shells from the tube. From this great site, I found the problem and where to get the part I needed (cartrige guide spring, which was missing).

I love the gun as it is, even where my grandfather roughly etched his initials into the top of the barrell. The barrell does look really bad though, so it would be nice to clean that up.

Details

Manufacturer: Listed as Ranger, I assume Savage

Factory: Don't know

Barrel: .22 Short Long Or Long Rifle Long Rifle Only As Automatic"
Patent: 2094577
Others Pending

Bumper(top of receiver): solid

Receiver & Sights: Standard post & rear sights
Gills 8 on left side, 1 on right

Charging Handle: Large grooved

Trigger Mechanism: Not sure, you can see below

Lifter: Solid

Stock: Don't know. Shown below

Trigger Guard: plastic

Magazine: Tube, cartridge shaped





















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Old 01-11-2011, 11:33 PM
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phield,

I was following your other post & am glad Bob (SAS) was able to point you to the part you need.
That is a wonderful heirloom you have there & well worth bringing back to it's former glory.

From your info. & pics, it is a Sears Ranger 101.16 branded Savage made at the Utica,NY factory prior to the move to Chicopee Falls in '46.
I say this because of the single patent & it matches one posted by Bimmer.
(See #17 in the spreadsheet linked at the end of the first post in this thread.)

It has the long trigger assy., which after firing around, the bolt will remain to the rear until the trigger is released, unlike earlier short trigger assys.
The stock is most likely birch, as were many store branded guns.

I will add it to the spreadsheet & get with SAS to update the link.

Thanks for the post,
Regards, Hud
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