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Old 10-22-2021, 07:05 AM
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Hi can anyone help me identify an old anschutz of my dads.
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:13 AM
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It is hard to tell specifics from this one photo of the left side of the rifle, where the bolt is not visible but the stock looks like beech and it has a safety. The safety indicates what is commonly referred to as a Flobert action. I read the date stamp as 1974 and there should be a model listing on the top of the barrel.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:31 AM
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Definitely not a Flobert action.


Looks like one of the lower cost single shots from the 1960s? based on the 64 action.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:39 AM
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Definitely not a Flobert action.


Looks like one of the lower cost single shots from the 1960s? based on the 64 action.
Give us a right side photo. Bolt handle in same vertical line as the trigger, or ahead of it? Either an early 64 as you suggest, or a Flobert II action gun.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:11 AM
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From the limited information available, I would guess 1388.
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Old 10-22-2021, 09:17 AM
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Definitely not a Flobert action.


Looks like one of the lower cost single shots from the 1960s? based on the 64 action.
The "lower cost single shots" were Flobert II rifles, which were not 64 actions.

The Flobert rifle bolt in the closed position is forward of the trigger. If you look at the trigger location compared to where the bolt must close, it's obvious the bolt and trigger are not close.



For anyone interested in basic differences between Anschutz actions, below is a view from above of the different actions

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Old 10-22-2021, 11:50 AM
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The "lower cost single shots" were Flobert II rifles, which were not 64 actions.
Thanks, you have furthered my "Anschutz education".


This is what I think of when I see "Flobert"
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Old 10-22-2021, 12:44 PM
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Thanks, you have furthered my "Anschutz education".


This is what I think of when I see "Flobert"
Yes, I had one of those "Floberts" (in 32rf) in the ancient past, but with Anschutz, it means a variation of one or two simple bolt actions.
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Old 10-22-2021, 02:00 PM
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Definitely not a Flobert action.


Looks like one of the lower cost single shots from the 1960s? based on the 64 action.
Lieber Gewehrfreund,

a 64 action from that time has no safety on the left side, the safety is on the right side. I had stated that in my post but you did obviously not read it carefully enough. I cannot find any mention by the OP that it is a single shot and the magazine area is covered by the hand.

Here is a photo of a 1400 in a rare handsome walnut stock:



The receiver bridge is noticeably smaller and the receiver is shorter and lighter, as well.

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Old 10-22-2021, 03:58 PM
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Yes, I had one of those "Floberts" (in 32rf) in the ancient past, but with Anschutz, it means a variation of one or two simple bolt actions.
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Lieber Gewehrfreund,

a 64 action from that time has no safety on the left side, the safety is on the right side. I had stated that in my post but you did obviously not read it carefully enough. I cannot find any mention by the OP that it is a single shot and the magazine area is covered by the hand.
Yes, duly note and thanks to both of you for putting me in my place (correctly).
These early rifles were a total terra incognita for me. . . . .
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Old 10-22-2021, 04:14 PM
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Hey guys I will try get a photo of the right side, it is not a single shot it has a magazine. It was actually my grandads who gave it to my dad. Dad thinks
The rifle was already quite old when grandad had it.
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Old 10-22-2021, 08:19 PM
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Not sure about the rifle particulars, though it shares similarities with my pre58, junior varminter, except the safety is on the opposite side.
The stock however is heartwood walnut, not beech, it tends to be more blonde in color and with a tight straight grain such as yours.
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... it is not a single shot it has a magazine.....
O.K., I'll withdraw my suggestion of 1388 and offer 1450 instead.
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The stock may well be walnut. If so, and the rifle is a 1450, it will have checkering on the pistol grip and forearm. If it doesn't have checkering, the stock is likely beech and the rifle a Model 1400.
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O.K., I'll withdraw my suggestion of 1388 and offer 1450 instead.
Don't withdraw it. Someone else has joined the thread with a different gun..
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