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Old 10-26-2018, 10:40 AM
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I recently purchased my first 10/22 rifle. It's a Sporter Model #1102. I have been too busy to shoot it so far, but not to busy to look at upgrade improvements. So far I have purchased a BX trigger, Volquartsen auto bolt release/exact edge extractor, Kidd firing pin, and Kidd receiver pins (in case there is some slop in factory pins). My plan is to send the bolt along with the upgraded extractor and firing pin to C.P.C. Gunsmithing to have the bolt work done.

Does it make sense to do all this before testing the performance of the gun in factory original state?

The long-term plan is to give this rifle to my granddaughter when she gets old enough to shoot responsibly as her "starter" gun.
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Old 10-26-2018, 11:34 AM
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Thumbs up no it doesnt, BUT.........

I was guilty of mods to my 2008 wal mart special 22" before I shot it the first time. BX trigger, soft bolt stop, auto bolt release and custom JWH bolt. not a big investment including the pawn shop 130.00 rifle, about 230.00 all total! I am happy.
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:16 PM
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My beliefs are different than most. I believe in trying something before any modifications are made. This way you can judge if the modifications work better than the original.
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Old 10-26-2018, 12:27 PM
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I recently purchased my first 10/22 rifle. It's a Sporter Model #1102. I have been too busy to shoot it so far, but not to busy to look at upgrade improvements. So far I have purchased a BX trigger, Volquartsen auto bolt release/exact edge extractor, Kidd firing pin, and Kidd receiver pins (in case there is some slop in factory pins). My plan is to send the bolt along with the upgraded extractor and firing pin to C.P.C. Gunsmithing to have the bolt work done.

Does it make sense to do all this before testing the performance of the gun in factory original state?

The long-term plan is to give this rifle to my granddaughter when she gets old enough to shoot responsibly as her "starter" gun.
You should have saved your money, not bought ANYTHING, and just sent the gun to CPC. The FULL Tune-Up is $189.

He modifies stock trigger to be a lot better than the BX you just spent $60 on.
For an extra $10, he adds his own hardened extractor. He has 3 different sizes, custom fits the exact size your particular bolt needs.
He modifies the bolt to be just as good or better than the aftermarket offerings.
He also installs oversize receiver pins.

You've spent more on aftermarket parts than the entire tune-up costs. Plus, his tune-up includes a whole lot more. I have seven 10/22s... and all of them have had his full tune-up. The guns come back, and simply WORK... and work accurately. Since he works the entire gun, everything is going to work TOGETHER. The receiver gets squared to the barrel, and everything is 'blueprinted' to be perfect. You're not going to have conflicting parts, variances/tolerances stacking up in the wrong direction, etc. It will be RIGHT.

He works some magic with the factory barrel, and can make it shoot a LOT better than it did from the factory. If I were insisting on spending the money you did before sending it to CPC, I'd probably purchase a nice KIDD barrel or something, and send it with the gun. His magic on the entire gun, as well as a quality barrel, would produce one FINE shooting rifle.

Go here and see what all he does. You can also look up the specific bolt work.
http://www.ct-precision.com/

Good Luck
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:15 PM
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Thanks to all replies. Interesting reply by n2omike. I just recently learned of the bolt work CPC does after reading about it on here and then checking out his website but was unaware of the entire treatment. This sounds like something I will do with my next 10/22 that I already have my eye on. I'm thinking since he says I can send my firing pin and extractor with the bolt and he will fit it all up, that may be somewhat acceptable if not as perfect as he could do with the full rework. I will discuss with him when I call to confirm sending the parts that if it needs one of his custom fit extractors, I'll be ok with that. Thanks again for telling me about this option. I'm still hoping that when I get the bolt back it will be a reliable rifle.

You guys are awesome resources on these rifles.
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Old 10-26-2018, 01:27 PM
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Shoot it first. Who knows? You might have that "1 in 10,000"!
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:01 PM
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Agree with the shoot-it-first guys. Only then will you be able to appreciate what the upgrades have done.
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Old 10-26-2018, 02:49 PM
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shoot it first to make sure you have a 100% functioning rifle...if you don't, send it back to Ruger so they can fix it

mod a reliable gun, not something that is going to be a problem from day one
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:33 PM
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I don't generally do a lot of mods, I would never do any before shooting to get a solid idea of where it started. Just my .02.
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Old 10-26-2018, 03:55 PM
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I'd shoot it first, at least a box full, at 25 and 50 yards if possible. Then you can install your upgrades and have a first-hand understanding of what they do to improve your rifle.
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This is what I do with a complete rifle, not the ones I assemble from scratch.

Before the first round I:

Clean and lube with One Shot,

Check all fasteners for tightness, especially the barrel wedge screws.

Put action in stock, pulling the barrel to the right side of the barrel channel and snug action screw, then observe whether the barrel self centers afterward. This is because of the generally loose fit of the O.E.M. stock.

Take a couple different types of ammo to the range and shoot for group.

Once the accuracy has been established, let the mod games begin!
Depending on what you need/desire, it could be modest or $$.

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Old 10-26-2018, 04:13 PM
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Nice rifle. I would shoot it first. Change every part one or two at a time and put the original rifle back together. Then you will have two when you go shooting with granddaughter.
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:29 PM
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I recently purchased my first 10/22 rifle. It's a Sporter Model #1102. I have been too busy to shoot it so far, but not to busy to look at upgrade improvements. So far I have purchased a BX trigger, Volquartsen auto bolt release/exact edge extractor, Kidd firing pin, and Kidd receiver pins (in case there is some slop in factory pins). My plan is to send the bolt along with the upgraded extractor and firing pin to C.P.C. Gunsmithing to have the bolt work done.

Does it make sense to do all this before testing the performance of the gun in factory original state?

The long-term plan is to give this rifle to my granddaughter when she gets old enough to shoot responsibly as her "starter" gun.
Will it end up scoped?? If not I wouldn't even send the bolt out. I probably wouldn't swap out the firing pin, extractor or receiver pins either unless something doesn't work. The trigger and bolt release are the only mods of any value on your stock barreled iron sight rifle. IMO
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Old 10-26-2018, 04:55 PM
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I can see both points of view. It's exciting to modify the rifle ,but at the same time every once in awhile you get a stock rifle that performs better than normal. I have always shot my rifles first unless it was a full-on Super Grade then make my modifications based on what I think the rifle needs first and go from there.
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You never know - even a blind squirrel can find a nut once in a while....

I'd shoot it just for a base line. Or you can assume that the perfect combination probably didn't happen, check the various "first groups" posts (I know I made one) and go from there.
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