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Old 10-20-2021, 04:50 PM
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My second Element Nexus scope showed up today



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Try and set this cz457 with 3rd hm2 lilja barrel up and do some hunting with it maybe.
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Old 10-20-2021, 09:49 PM
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Got barrel installed. Used gauge and to get .043” headspace .006” shims used. Used a .004 and .002” shim.
Rough mounter scope.
So far I like it.
This is a 457 american with wood stock.
Channel opened up a bit.
With Nexus scope mounted feels good weight wise and balance wise.
Small clearance between scope and barrel. Kept scope low - I like to do this. Think cheek weld feels good with oem wood stock too.
Will use cut off sprite plastic bottle to keep the rain out if I am using in the rain. Like I do with one of my 455s with other nexus scope mounted.
Let’s hope it shoots well.
We’ll see.
I may try to get rail adapter for CZ 457. I am using one made for CZ 455.
Also I’ll mention this. Based on feel of stock.
One has imo higher chances (slipping) losing their grip when wet this wood stock vs synthetic stocks on CZ 455s.

Was in the woods late this evening watching a squirrel. I’ll say this about nexus scope. It will let you see a squirrel you can’t see with your own eye. You have to find the squirrel usually with your eye and then out scope on to shoot. Sometimes one might locate inndarker trees with scope though.
At 6x I could still see well and woods were mighty dark.
Of course one would need to use illumination with reticle.

Cheers.

Will share more info on this setup soon.

Have ordered dip CZ 457 11mm conversion rail from dip.
Think I’ll wait and install it before I proceed any further.
The CZ 457 dip rail based on pics is extended up front unlike what I am using. Plus the holes will line up in the rail for security.
Keep me from having to have 455 rail slid past the front of rail somewhat with scope vertical turrent against the front ring.

Btw I am using Low hawke 30 mm rings.
Use the same ones with adapter rail on my 455 with my other nexus scope.

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Old 10-20-2021, 11:37 PM
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Is that a $1600 scope on your 457?
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Old 10-20-2021, 11:53 PM
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Is that a $1600 scope on your 457?
Not quite.
More near $1500.

I like my squirrels to look pretty before I shoot them.
Seriously I like to be able to see good with scope and reach out there if I need to on squirrels and a few other things like coyotes, etc.

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Sounds good. Thanks.
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A little too late, but this is a great price on that scope…
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Old 10-22-2021, 07:18 PM
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A little too late, but this is a great price on that scope…
Yeah.
Element folks have released (not too long ago) a nice FFP with 44mm objective not too heavy.
Anyone’s wanting to try a FFP scope without breaking the bank might be good choice.
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This optics company is new to me, is Element part of another company?
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Old 10-24-2021, 12:08 PM
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This optics company is new to me, is Element part of another company?
I think FX airguns has fronted some money to get it going. The folks behind the scopes. Not dummies, or even engineers, actually shooters and hunters.
Watch some of their videos.

They are trying hard (and I like their approach) to appeal to varied interest using scopes on rifles.

Don’t think their scopes are for airguns only, simply not true.

The helix line might just be best bang for buck right now.
Their other lines, I can only speak for Nexus. I like it. So much I bought second one.

Not too many lower mag FFP scopes out there. Element helix not overly expensive either.

Cat is coming out of the bag more and more with each passing day. As far as how good their scopes are for the $$$.

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Well I have an FX royale, and it's been a pretty good airgun. So them having some sorta ties to FX is a positive. I saw on the box that it's made in Japan, also a good thing, I've owned a few of the old Hakko scopes and they were reliable, clear and bright... I will check into these scopes, the next time I'm in the market.
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Old 10-24-2021, 09:29 PM
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Well I have an FX royale, and it's been a pretty good airgun. So them having some sorta ties to FX is a positive. I saw on the box that it's made in Japan, also a good thing, I've owned a few of the old Hakko scopes and they were reliable, clear and bright... I will check into these scopes, the next time I'm in the market.
The Nexus is made in Japan.
The Helix made in China I think.
The other (third one) I’m not sure.

Weight was a consideration with their designing these scopes. They are somewhat lighter than the competition generally.

Glass seems to get good reviews for what each model cost.
Some say the nexus better glass than NXS Nightforce.
I have Nightforce but it’smag range and objective different than my Nexus. If I compared I’m not sure it would be fair.

Seeing that Element has recently added more budget Value FFP model is very good. They evidently see a hole in the market and acted. Good move imo.

I have read where quite a few vudoo rimfire owners opting for Nexus. It’s weight and being FFP is attractive I think to them.
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Old 10-27-2021, 08:52 PM
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Got Nexus scope mounted today on CZ 457 using DIP rail.
Did a short video.
Folks may want to watch this video who own 457 models.
I modified DIP rail but cutting off back portion for clearance.
Other scopes may cause the same problem I had besides Nexus.
I can’t stand high mounted scopes on rifles, especially squirrel guns.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JSMle4RUAiY
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Old 10-28-2021, 08:58 AM
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First 3 shots out of new lilja hm2 barrel at 44 yards, no scope adjustment. That’s a 2” dot btw.
I did look through bore before shooting target. It looked awfully close.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cURei7Vh75Q

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Old 10-29-2021, 09:05 AM
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For those following this thread.
Some folks may want to try first focal plane scope for squirrel hunting.
If one does choose to do.
What one will find is closer shots, If FFP scope is used and one is accustomed to using second focal plane scope hold over on closer shots, tendency would result in shots being shot too low.
Reticle in FFP stays with same reference no matter the magnification.
You don’t get the multiplying effect with FFP (with hold over) like one gets with second focal plane scope. Example dialing a 10x max mag scope down to 6x, this almost doubles the 3 moa (crosshair below center on my Nightforce NXS scope). So if I put bottom of crosshair on squirrel head using my Nightforce second focal plane scope, I am aiming about over 5 moa high to make up for barrel below scope.
Use of my Nexus scope on 6x, one has to aim higher based on actual cross in reticle. If one turns up light to level 9 or 10 using nexus scope. One can see the 4 moa reference dots (4moa, 8 moa, 12 moa). And when you see these and aiming say 8 moa high, you have the cross of reticle way over the top of squirrel head. Far more than using my Nightforce at 6x.

Thought I would share.

I like FFP scopes I have. Different though. Takes some getting use to. I am getting there.

For hunting purposes using FFP I highly recommend one get illuminated
reticle option.
For target shooting less important.

I may do a video showing targets shot at 10 yards.
Comparing my hm2 equipped with nightorce 2.5x10 second focal plane at 6x.
And my hm2 equipped with element Nexus FFP scope at 6x.
Actually I may leave both scopes at 5x since this may make understanding better. Since dialing Nightforce (second focal plane) to 5x doubles the reticle holdover moa wise versus using 10x.
Show points of Impact.
And show some drawings of reticles talking about my hold points based on the reticles to get poi in center of target.
Granted on a squirrel head there is some error allowed elevation wise and make harvest with 17 hm2. Still though one needs to make good shots.
My nexus scope sits a tad higher above bore than my Nightforce scope does.

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Old 10-30-2021, 03:57 PM
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Still too windy to evaluate my 457 with hm2 lilja barrel on. Like what I see so far. Shot in drizzling rain today.
Right to left wind (variable) at lasered 67 yards. Nexus scope at 12x.
5 shots. Not from the best rest either. Little time spent on aiming.
Lowest shot case split. This was first shot shot btw.
Shot that is far left I adjusted scope wrong way 1/4 moa before I shot.
Aiming at center top edge of dot.

Probably pull boresnake through and shoot again.
Since it’s new barrel with about 15 shots down it.

So far looks like a squirrel getter. Hope so anyways.
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