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Old 03-13-2020, 02:19 PM
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I have a Ruger TT Bull barrel, with a factory bipod, and I cannot figure out what the issue is with the accuracy (or lack thereof...)
It has a Leupold rimfire 3-9 scope, securely mounted.
I have fired it off the bench, using bags and a bipod, at 50 yards.
And this is pretty much what I get....
First round, 7 ring at 5'oclock.
Next 3-4 rounds grouping tight near center.
Then one in 9 ring at 2'oclock, then another in the 8 ring at 5 o'clock.
No consistent pattern.
Grouping of 10 rounds ends up being 2 3/4" at 50 Yards.
No wind. No table wobble.
Using Remington target ammo.
I checked the crown of the muzzle for damage. None. But the powder pattern isn't consistent on the muzzle, leaving me to wonder if that's any issue?
I tried to post photos of the crown and target, but it this site seems only to take photos with URL's?
Thanks for any advice in advance.
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Old 03-13-2020, 02:28 PM
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Have you ever scrubbed the Chamber? Carbon ringed barrels can spray patterns like you speak of... Hoppes #9 on a patch (very wet) stuffed into the chamber then leave it for a few hours.. then retrieve the patch (tweezers) and scrub with a .243 bent brush.. then mop it all out the bore with 3 pulls of a BoreSnake. This little Gem is the best for scrubbing/mopping... https://gunsmithertools.com/shop?ols...mber-tool-gl1p

That will take away that possibility.. then.. better ammo! I personally never had any luck with the Rem. ammo you are using... Try CCI Std. Velocity on the cheap or step up to SK Std. Plus.

With great ammo the best groups I ever shot with my "T" barrel at 50 yds. were approx. .75-1"... not spectacular shooters.
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Old 03-13-2020, 02:30 PM
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I have a Ruger TT Bull barrel, with a factory bipod, and I cannot figure out what the issue is with the accuracy (or lack thereof...)
It has a Leupold rimfire 3-9 scope, securely mounted.
I have fired it off the bench, using bags and a bipod, at 50 yards.
And this is pretty much what I get....
First round, 7 ring at 5'oclock.
Next 3-4 rounds grouping tight near center.
Then one in 9 ring at 2'oclock, then another in the 8 ring at 5 o'clock.
No consistent pattern.
Grouping of 10 rounds ends up being 2 3/4" at 50 Yards.
No wind. No table wobble.
Using Remington target ammo.
I checked the crown of the muzzle for damage. None. But the powder pattern isn't consistent on the muzzle, leaving me to wonder if that's any issue?
I tried to post photos of the crown and target, but it this site seems only to take photos with URL's?
Thanks for any advice in advance.
I'm no expert... so I could be all wrong. I would first clean the crap out of the barrel. Especially clean the chamber and remove any carbon residue until it sparkles. Use some high grade match ammo and try again. I have a 10/22 carbine with a sporter barrel. The best I can get is about 1.5 inch groups at 50 yards; it just wont do better like it is.
For reference, my Savage Mark 4 will shoot about 3/8 inch, 5 shot groups consistently.
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Old 03-13-2020, 02:52 PM
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I have a Ruger TT Bull barrel, with a factory bipod, and I cannot figure out what the issue is with the accuracy (or lack thereof...)
It has a Leupold rimfire 3-9 scope, securely mounted.
I have fired it off the bench, using bags and a bipod, at 50 yards.
And this is pretty much what I get....
First round, 7 ring at 5'oclock.
Next 3-4 rounds grouping tight near center.
Then one in 9 ring at 2'oclock, then another in the 8 ring at 5 o'clock.
No consistent pattern.
Grouping of 10 rounds ends up being 2 3/4" at 50 Yards.
No wind. No table wobble.
Using Remington target ammo.
I checked the crown of the muzzle for damage. None. But the powder pattern isn't consistent on the muzzle, leaving me to wonder if that's any issue?
I tried to post photos of the crown and target, but it this site seems only to take photos with URL's?
Thanks for any advice in advance.
there's you first problem right there
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Old 03-13-2020, 03:47 PM
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step up to Lapua Center-X or RWS R100 and report back
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Your usually not going to get better than 1"- 1 1/2" groups out of a 100% OEM 10/22, especially for a 10 shot group. 2 1/2" is pretty bad. As mentioned make sure your chamber is clean. Check all your screws and make sure everything is tight (TD screw, scope rings, rail). Buy some decent ammo like SK and try some 5 shot groups @50 yards.
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Shoot off a proper bag or rest with a rear bag also, unless you are skilled in the use of a bipod it can easily throw shots.
Establish a baseline for grouping then attempt to duplicate it with the bipod.
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Shoot off a proper bag or rest with a rear bag also, unless you are skilled in the use of a bipod it can easily throw shots.
Establish a baseline for grouping then attempt to duplicate it with the bipod.
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Shoot off a proper bag or rest with a rear bag also, unless you are skilled in the use of a bipod it can easily throw shots.
Establish a baseline for grouping then attempt to duplicate it with the bipod.
What "crank" said and use real target ammo to get a baseline. There will need to be at least ten shots or more to get your barrel seasoned to the ammo before checking for grouping.
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Good advise on the chamber cleaning. Also, remove from the stock and make sure the V-block screws are secure.
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You also might try some pads under the barrel, most people have luck with an inch or two back from the muzzel end. Me i iike one right where the barrel fitst meets the stock. Each barrel is different, like a bell!
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I'd give the crown a looking at also. Maybe give it the Q-Tip test. Most factory crowns are less than ideal let alone straight.
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Nodak , what is the Q-tip test?
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Nodak , what is the Q-tip test?
you spin a q-tip in the edge of the bore at the muzzle to see if any of the cotton gets snagged on any burrs

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/...-with-a-q-tip/
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Well, your first mistake is you are using REMINGTON 22 AMMO! Most of us that have used it consider it the last ditch ammo of last resort! I still have some Remington ammo but I don't tend to buy it any more. I really like Aguila and most CCI and most Federal. Winchester has become much less reliable than it was. Some will tell you SK+ and nothing less but GECO has shown promise for some! You can't cuss the gun if you have only tried 1 brand and lot number of ammo! I bet that lot of Remington target ammo has audible differences in the sound of each round fired if you paid attention. If you are doing everything else right, it has to be the ammo and not the gun to get groups that big! It's sad because Remington once was really great American Made 22 ammo! The Dupont loaded stuff is usually really good! I bet Aguila ammo will get you down under 1 inch from your target model 10/22!

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