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Old 09-12-2020, 11:33 AM
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Is the 77/22 worth twice the price of an American Rimfire?



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I am looking at $800 for a stainless 77/22 and $400 for a stainless Ruger American Rimfire. Is the classic 77/22 worth twice the price?
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:59 AM
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$800 is a lot of money. It is also a gamble whether you are going to get one that shoots well. For that money, you could get a CZ 455 or 457, couldn't you? There are things you can do to accurize them and you can re-barrel them if you feel the need.

A Bergara is $950 but they are MOA guaranteed and most of them are shooting much, much better. But it is a heavier rifle too--not really one to carry long distances.

I do have fond experience with the Ruger 77 in .270 Winchester, but no direct experience with the 77/22.
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Old 09-12-2020, 12:01 PM
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And some threads suggest that the 77/22 in 22LR take proprietary magazines where the RAR takes 10/22 magazines. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the 77/22 in 22LR does use the same 10/22 type magazines.
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Old 09-12-2020, 12:10 PM
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Thanks Squirrel. I’m a Scout Rifle guy and not a target guy, so probably less demanding of sub-MOA accuracy. I shot Rifleman with a mostly stock 10/22 and am comfortable with that level of accuracy. I get the feeling that if I want a Ruger, a $400 American is a better fit for me.
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You can use 10/22 mags in a 77/22. The base is shaped differently on the 77/22 mag.
I use high cap 10/22 mags in my 77/22 when I feel like it.

There is no doubt that the 77/22 is worth significantly more than the American rifle. The question is how much more. Only the buyer can say what they are willing to pay. $800 is a lot, however, if the 77/22 is like new and since it is no longer manufactured it may be worth it. Also, is that price OTD?
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Old 09-12-2020, 01:32 PM
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I have a Ruger American Ranch and it’s a decent rifle. It’s the original design and the plastic magazine sucks, but the rest of the gun is fine. Upgrading the design to use AR magazines was smart and I think the American Rimfire using 10/22 magazines would eliminate that shortcoming.

I also have a few 77 and Hawkeye rifles and they are inspiring. Solid and dependable with a whole different feel than the American. Guess I’m trying to talk myself into spending an extra $400. Feels like a buy once, cry once moment.
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I have the 77/22 in LR hornet and Magnum and 17hmr would not trade them for anything. People complain about the accuracy but I have no problems with them. They feel like a real rifle and I do not care for the Tupperware on the Rugers. They can all shoot with my CZS not that a CZ is a mark of accuracy.
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I would rather buy a 77/22 over any RAR, even at those prices.
I really like my 77/22, and would have little pleasure in owning a RAR.

My 77/22 shoots extremely well, so I am fortunate to have a rifle that both looks great & shoots great.
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I would rather buy a 77/22 over any RAR, even at those prices.
I really like my 77/22, and would have little pleasure in owning a RAR.

My 77/22 shoots extremely well, so I am fortunate to have a rifle that both looks great & shoots great.
My experience with my 77/22 is similar to yours. It is definitely worth much more that the American, but how much more is the question. If I really wanted one I would pay the difference and move on with life. It is a probably a once in a lifetime purchase anyway.
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The 77/22 is a big gun, the RAR is a little gun. Depends on what you like. As youre a Texan, i bet its the big gun.

The 77/22 is a bit over price, imho, but its stainless. Is the stock wood or laminate? I am no fan of laminate, but some people are.

If youre looking at the talo edition RAR , its a nice gun too!
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Depends on how much you want the better trim package. The American is a good workhorse rifle. I shoot side by side with one a fair bit as my childhood friend has one. Honestly it has a better trigger, and with a drill and tap the DNz combo with the shorter bolt throw it's a sweet little rig. I've harrassed my local gun pimp to find me a talo stainless in wmr to no avail.

With that said my 17hmr is a 77/17, or what's left of it is. This was put together a decade before the vudoo and rimx were developed. It's in a McMillan stock, with a volquartsen barrel, bolt reworked from cpc, with an aftermarket trigger. It was the best option at the time for a premium 17 and I love it. It's a bit heavy considering how much carbon is involved but that's the nature of the 77 action, upside is a real metal trigger guard. As my age creeps up fit and finish as well as ergos matter. The 77 was far from perfect stock, but was a really good canvas to start on.

American is probably better dollar for money out of the box and stock. But the 77 will polish up to a higher level if your willing to accept the cost.

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The 77' has it's faults, as almost ever rifle does, but I would call it a classic and a potential "heirloom", the American is not.
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I have a late production 77/22 with a screwed in barrel. I think that makes a difference for accuracy. I also installed a Volquartsen sear and spring. That really made a big difference to the trigger. Topped off with a Nikon 3x9 EFR scope it keeps right in the 10 ring at 50 yards. Squirrels hate it too.
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You can use 10/22 mags in a 77/22. The base is shaped differently on the 77/22 mag.
I use high cap 10/22 mags in my 77/22 when I feel like it.

There is no doubt that the 77/22 is worth significantly more than the American rifle. The question is how much more. Only the buyer can say what they are willing to pay. $800 is a lot, however, if the 77/22 is like new and since it is no longer manufactured it may be worth it. Also, is that price OTD?
I also use 10/22 mags in my 77/22. Over the years they have gotten mixed up and I don't pay any attention to what I am using. I think the 77/22 mags are flatter on the bottom, internals and feed lips are the same.
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I recently found a Ruger blued steel 77/22 synthetic stock 22LR at a LGS. It is NEW and UNFIRED. Asking price $600. It was made in 2017 and one of the last manufactured before being discontinued. Is it worth it? To my brother it is. He has been looking for one. They are not easy to find now, especially NEW. I called him and he did not hesitate. He lives in upper NY state. I went right over and put it on lay away for him. He is coming down for a fall squirrel hunt with me in October here in Pa. Very excited now to try his new rifle.

I already own a Ruger 77/22 VBZ 22LR. I would never sell it. Hooked up with a Leupold 6.5 x 20 AO.

IMO the RAR is ugly and low quality. I would never buy one. The wood stocked model is not even walnut. No thanks.

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