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Old 06-13-2010, 01:38 AM
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If the stock 10/22 CRR action, with 16" barrel, is dropped in a Butler Creek side folding stock, will the overall length be 26" or more with the stock folded (if I recall that's the minimum legal OAL)? I wasn't able to find specifications suitable to determine if it was or not...
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Old 06-13-2010, 09:51 AM
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If you are referring to ATF barrel length restrictions, it refers to barrel lenth ONLY which is 16".
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Old 06-13-2010, 10:34 AM
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If you are referring to ATF barrel length restrictions, it refers to barrel lenth ONLY which is 16".
Incorrect. OAL is also required on a federal level, 26" for rifle, 28" for shotgun.

State laws vary as well - for example, Mich or Wisc (forget which) requires anything with less than an OAL of 30" to be registered as a pistol or some silly nonsense like that.
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Old 06-13-2010, 05:07 PM
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Most of the rules require measurement be taken with the rifle at it's longest, not shortest. For example, folded stocks need to be straightened, adjustable stocks are fully extended.
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Two distinctly different sets of rules apply, federal and state / local.

Under federal regulations it's fine.

"Short-barreled rifle. A rifle having one
or more barrels less than 16 inches in
length, and any weapon made from a
rifle, whether by alteration, modification,
or otherwise, if such weapon, as
modified, has an overall length of less
than 26 inches.
Short-barreled shotgun. A shotgun
having one or more barrels less than 18
inches in length, and any weapon made
from a shotgun, whether by alteration,
modification, or otherwise, if such
weapon as modified has an overall
length of less than 26 inches."

http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...7cfr478.11.pdf

Note: ATF measures the OAL with the stock extended.

As noted earlier some state / local regulations are different. Please check!
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To give you a definate answer to your question ~~ I measured mine with a BC folding stock and an 18 !/2" barrel. It just barely meets the 26" OAL length, with a 16 1/2" barrel it will not meet the 26" OAL unless you permanently attach some sort of muzzle attachment, but then you will defeat the purpose of having a 16 1/2" barrel. Best to stick with the stock barrel (18 1/2").
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To give you a definate(sic) answer to your question ~~ I measured mine with a BC folding stock and an 18 !/2" barrel. It just barely meets the 26" OAL length, with a 16 1/2" barrel it will not meet the 26" OAL unless you permanently attach some sort of muzzle attachment, but then you will defeat the purpose of having a 16 1/2" barrel. Best to stick with the stock barrel (18 1/2").


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Note: ATF measures the OAL with the stock extended.



As noted above...
You are good to go.
Really.

Of course, your STATE law may be different than FEDERAL law.

Have fun with it.
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No, see below.




As noted above...
You are good to go.
Really.

Of course, your STATE law may be different than FEDERAL law.

Have fun with it.
p


That is good to know for sure, just hope whatever L.E.O. has his facts in line! I just like to be on the safe side all the way around. Also F Y I , I wanted a 16" barrel for my folder and called Ruger to order one and they said they would not sell just the 16" barrel to an indivdual. Have seen them listed by several vendors, but "out of stock".
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Old 06-16-2010, 02:57 PM
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Old 06-16-2010, 05:51 PM
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If you have the 1022 CRR and want to put it into a folding stock, I would say go for it! It is classified as a rifle and you are not changing that. I think it would make a really nice woods roaming or pack rifle. I would do that but I am at the point of swaping parts, not buying more 1022's.
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