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You're correct. You didn't see anywhere that I said "the" did you?
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The Chaparral that covers much of CA was designed (or has evolved, if you prefer) to burn periodically. Many plants would now be extinct without fire...

https://www.smmtc.org/plantofthemont...reRecovery.php
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What ever the cause, human or natural, fires are devastating to the people and animals subject to them.

One year we were in Tucson AZ. when Mt. Lemon was on fire. The whole valley filled up with smoke, the sun was blotted out , and it looked like we we were in Hades. A giant glowing mountain looming over a smoke filled pit.


My condolences, and prayers . May it rain, but not too much
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The Chaparral that covers much of CA was designed (or has evolved, if you prefer) to burn periodically. Many plants would now be extinct without fire...
Yep.

I remember back in the early 80s, "scientists" were giving dire warnings that aspen trees were in danger of going extinct out west. Pine trees block the sunlight they need from reaching them.

Aspen are the first trees to start growing back after a fire. They're now doing very well indeed in areas that burned in the 80s and 90s.
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The whole environment evolved around periodic fires, obviously of natural origin, which came to play essential roles in clearing ground for new growth. Many plants actually require fire exposure for normal health, whether as a direct result of exposure or as a result of competing plants being cleared. This applies both to grass/range lands and forests. The problem comes in when we show up and build things that are damaged by the fires that naturally occur or are started/set by us and we actively work to put out fires to prevent that damage. Can't fault us for trying to save our lives or structures but it is actually working against a well-balanced system of fire and growth.
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Some fire is good and is needed for healthy forests, such as the lodge pole pine:

The serotinous cone of a lodgepole pine are opened by the flames.... However, the serotinous cones give lodgepole pine a special advantage for spreading seeds for the next generation. These cones are closed tight with resin that melts during a fire and releases seeds that have been stored for years just laying on the ground, but not all species that grow here in the west are of this type and will deplete such as the Ponderosa

I'll agree..but..too much like whats going on now, the Bootleg fire in Oregon for one example, that has consumed over 400,000 acres..62 square miles..just one of the many, many,many, which imho is going to take its toll on the 'madness' whether man or beast.

Need lots of rain or the number of square miles could be staggering by Oct-Nov if it comes

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We are pretty well smoked in here in Central Wyoming, smoke from fires in Oregon and California mostly, visibility down to 2 miles or so almost daily.
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The Bootleg fire:

Look at the rate of growth...interesting


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8P4-xyMdJo




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We are pretty well smoked in here in Central Wyoming, smoke from fires in Oregon and California mostly, visibility down to 2 miles or so almost daily.
Here you go John


https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/im...-north-america



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For those that may be interested in more than just a weather report:

https://www.ventusky.com/


Fires still burn and grow larger..rain in the forecast here the next several days, coming up from the south..i pray its sheets of rain



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Current pic of Dixie fire plume of smoke in Nor-Cal. It's threatening Lake Almanor area and the town of Chester. In taking this picture I'm about 80-90 miles away from it.

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Russia is having some terrible fires as well, smoke plume over the eastern part is staggering and very unhealthy, makes our smoke look miniature.

NY Times quote:

As Frozen Land Burns, Siberia Fears: "If We Donít Have the Forest, We Donít Have Life"


interesting events going on, of which, imho, have poor endings

Don't mean to be a downer...just the facts


We have moisture in the forecast the next several days with a week of cool down in the 70's P.T.L. Sheets of rain Lord


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Quality reporting...

This is why I haven't watched "TV" in over a decade, but you can't even find quality "news" online any more..
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