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Old 03-25-2020, 10:14 AM
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I've wondered for years why it is even legal. 1917
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How about taxes. I worked in a place that sold cigarettes back in the late 50s-60s.- 23 cents/pak. Back then there was a 'profit' in the taxes. Medicaid/medicare wasnt around so much and those killing themselves paid for hosp/doc bills themselves more than now.
I couldnt count all the times I was asked "what kind do you smoke"--none---good and dont ever start... I was advised many times. I was still a minor then. Minors could sell but not buy.

I once said to the boss-I wish I made all that we make in cigs.. He laughed and said he didnt make much at all. Just got customers into the store.

I couldnt guess how many cartons total/week.

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This is 2020 now, maybe change the topic now that smoking tobacco is pretty rare, to who smokes cannabis, with or without a doctors note.
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Old 07-12-2020, 07:07 PM
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This is 2020 now, maybe change the topic now that smoking tobacco is pretty rare, to who smokes cannabis, with or without a doctors note.

Great idea. This thread has over 500 posts on the original topic. Maybe you should start a new thread on that one.
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Old 07-12-2020, 07:54 PM
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The receptionist at my dentist office got a prescription for medical marijuana when she went to get a new gun she checkedthe box on the 4473 that she smoked marijuana they took away her gun. Actually she had just traded Her old gunand they couldn’t give it back to her.So No weed for gun owners, or guns for pot heads.

Ps tobacco sales usa 2019 128 million lbs

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Old 07-12-2020, 08:08 PM
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.... an estimated 34.2 million adults in the United States currently smoke cigarettes.
That's approx 14% of the adult population.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_sta...king/index.htm
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Old 07-13-2020, 11:10 AM
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The smartest thing I ever did,,,

The smartest thing I ever did,,,
Was to finally quit smoking.

I smoked for 44 years,,,
I tried patches, gum, and those dang pills for a few years.

The longest I ever lasted trying cold turkey was maybe 12 hours.

Nothing seemed to have even the least effect on the cravings.

Then in a desperation move I tried hypnotherapy,,,
Absolutely the best $395.00 I've ever spent.

It's been over ten years now,,,
I haven't had one smoke since that one session.

It did not work like I thought it was going to though,,,
I thought it would erase the desire for a smoke from my mind.

It didn't.

Every time I had tried to quit before I experienced the same thing,,,
Something would trigger me (go outside, get in my car, get out of my car).

As soon as the trigger for a smoke happened,,,
A little beeping went off in my brain that wouldn't stop.

The beeping just got louder and more insistent,,,
Until I would eventually succumb and have a smoke.

The first thing that happened after the hypnotherapy was,,,
I left the building to walk 100 feet to my car,,,
That triggered me to want a smoke.

I thought I had just wasted 400 bucks,,,
But I had tossed my cigs before I went in the clinic.

I remember thinking "This is just like before.",,,
But I didn't have any smokes at all,,,
I had even dumped my ashtray.

I didn't even notice when the "beeping" stopped,,,
Or even that it had stopped.

I only noticed when I was triggered again,,,
Which was about 15 minutes after the first one.

On the long two hour drive back to my house,,,
I must have been triggered 6 or 7 times,,,
But unlike any other time before,,,
The beeping always stopped.

All I had to do was ignore the beeping and it would stop,,,
Now I'm telling you that wasn't easy to do at all,,,
Some times I thought I would go crazy.

But when I woke up the next morning and fought off that first trigger,,,
It dawned on me that I had gone 18 hours without a smoke.

That was the first time since basic training in 1970 that I had done that,,,
Making it to that first 24 hour mark was a major milestone.

It took several weeks for the intensity of the triggers to start abating,,,
They still came just as frequently but they waned quicker.

After a month the triggers were still happening,,,
But I could easily ignore them and the beeping stopped almost instantly.

After the 30 day mark I knew I had it licked,,,
The triggers were infrequent and not intense at all.

After the 3 month mark I was only being triggered a few times a day,,,
After the 6 month mark the triggers had all but stopped.

The funny thing is,,,
Even though it's been 10 years and 11 months now,,,
I do still get the occasional trigger but they are rare and I laugh at them.

It's amazing that after all these years
My hand will still reach to my shirt pocket on occasion.

So if any of you have not been successful in quitting,,,
I suggest you give thought to hypnotherapy.

I'm not guaranteeing it will work for you,,,
But it did wonders for me after all else had failed.

Aarond

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Old 07-13-2020, 05:07 PM
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I was raised in a cloud of tobacco smoke and smoked myself for almost 15 years. I quit in 1980, when cigarettes hit $5 a CARTON. Never looked back.

I used to have a couple of clients in downtown Baltimore who worked side by side. One was a chain-smoker, the other a non-smoker. When their building was declared smoke-free, the smoker was up and down the elevator all day long every day. A year or two later, the other fellow stood up and put on his coat at about 10 AM one Wednesday morning, announcing that he was taking his "annual smoke break". He walked out the door and returned the following Monday. When we did the math, we realized he could have stayed away about another whole week and still had time in the bank.
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Great idea. This thread has over 500 posts on the original topic. Maybe you should start a new thread on that one.
Many state governments are pushing marijuana -- they can almost taste the new tax revenue. That is, all the while they condemn tobacco. Hypocrisy knows no bounds. They've been losing that cig tax revenue even with huge tax increases. Good, I hope they price cigarettes so high everyone gives up (though there will always be a black market). I smoked for about seven years and quit -- cold-turkey -- from a two-pack a day habit, while on board ship with cigs at a dollar a carton. Yes, 10 a pack! That was in 1969. Almost caved a few times after but gritted my teeth through it. One of the best things I ever did.

Smoking has NO redeeming qualities -- it's unhealthy, it's dirty, it stinks, and it's expensive. But other than that...

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Many state governments are pushing marijuana -- they can almost taste the new tax revenue. That is, all the while they condemn tobacco. Hypocrisy knows no bounds. They've been losing that cig tax revenue even with huge tax increases. Good, I hope they price cigarettes so high everyone gives up (though there will always be a black market).

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That will never happen Doug. Heroine's been illegal for a long time and easily available in the bigger cities.
Vaping is he new butt break for the yutes and its mechanical nature makes it easily concealable.

Walgreen's still sells cigarettes in this town of 21K.
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In Illinois right after they legalized recreational pot , gang violence escalated significantly. While I have no proof, I surmise that since the State just took away a significant portion of the gangs revenue, they are fighting over the remaining illegal drug trade. Unintended consequences.

As for tobacco, well it has one benefit, its cheaper than pot , and not as intoxicating.
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Live in a Valley with LOTS of Grapes Vineyards and Pear Orchards.
All of a sudden there's LOTS of hot houses popping up in places that were nothing but pasture land?
You grow "grass", (legal or not) folks know you grow and sooner or later someone will come along that wants it without paying for it.
You sell it, someone will come along and take YOUR grass and the $$$ you made selling it.
Smart folks will play CYA and NOT get involved. Safer for you AND your family.

Quit smoking maybe 6,7, or 8 + years ago (lost count) COLD TURKEY. Just put them down.
Still love to have a smoke at times. (but still holding out) Don't think the desire ever goes away.
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