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Old 05-27-2021, 07:32 AM
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As the Archivist for the ASSRA I have a copy of the Eric Johnson Shop books. Al Freeland was the largest purchaser of Johnson Barrels. Several notes are made regarding barrels supplied without being fitted and I do not recall any of them being sold to Freeland. Sunderhaus and Remington Arms had blanks supplied to them and I think a few others. All of the Freeland barrels are associated with actions by serial number so it would seem that they were fitted by Johnson. I will look and see if I can find any that were sold as barrels as I do searches of the records and if I find any will try to remember to keep a list for future referance.
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Old 06-05-2021, 03:49 PM
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Of the 104 Barrels from the Eric Johnson records sold to Al Freeland all are listed as to what action they were fitted to. None sold as barrel only. Freeland purchased more barrels than anyone else.

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Old 06-05-2021, 06:13 PM
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Thank you for your assistance. A friend of mine has contacted you about his Johnson barreled Winchester 52's and you gave him information. Thanks again for what you do.
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Thanks for the replies so far, very interesting. Got the Martini ready for shooting Monday, took the pistol scope off and put a vintage Redfield 6x18 scope on it for shooting at 50 and may do 100 also. Goal is 1/4” at 50.

After I put the scope on it the forend was removed to see if any date was on it. There was the number 972 and 3/25/50. I was born 1/15/51, that’s close. On the lever was 011. Any idea what the 972 is? Fallingblock, help!

Also got an Uncle Al book and 2 catalogs from 1957 and catalog no. 47. Thanks to 17acklyb, Randy contacted me when I asked if anyone had a copy of the book for sale.

Gonna turn this gun into a bucket list item, always wanted a gun of some sort with a long vintage scope on it. Saved the contact for the company that makes scope blocks and don’t know what height it’s a super target spot I believe 15x. Any help would be appreciated. I assume the holes drilled in the barrel from Freeland have the correct spacing for the screws to mount the blocks. What size screw?? The company is email only, the phone number is for orders. Larry

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Old 06-05-2021, 09:04 PM
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Thanks for the replies so far, very interesting. Got the Martini ready for shooting Monday, took the pistol scope off and put a vintage Redfield 6x18 scope on it for shooting at 50 and may do 100 also. Goal is 1/4” at 50.

After I put the scope on it the forend was removed to see if any date was on it. There was the number 972 and 3/25/50. I was born 1/15/51, that’s close. On the lever was 011. Any idea what the 972 is? Fallingblock, help!

Also got an Uncle Al book and 2 catalogs from 1957 and catalog no. 47. Thanks to 17acklyb, Randy contacted me when I asked if anyone had a copy of the book for sale.

Gonna turn this gun into a bucket list item, always wanted a gun of some sort with a long vintage scope on it. Saved the contact for the company that makes scope blocks and don’t know what height it’s a super target spot I believe 15x. Any help would be appreciated. I assume the holes drilled in the barrel from Freeland have the correct spacing for the screws to mount the blocks. What size screw?? The company is email only, the phone number is for orders. Larry
Howdy Larry,

I've been meaning to respond to you, good job on getting the rifle!

The 972 is the barrel number of the rifle for Eric Johnson's shop records.

I think you will be quite pleasantly surprised with the accuracy. You will need to try different types of ammo. And yes, 1/4 inch groups (and better) can be done with an Eric Johnson built rifle.

Johnson used verrrrry soft steel in his barrels. Hopefully it has not been shot a whole lot.

I have a BSA Model 12 he built. It outshoots my Anschutz 1413, and that is a good Anschutz. It has the 5039 double set trigger that goes down to 1/6 of 1 ounce. The Martini has, I think, a 3 pound trigger. And the Martini can beat it. Blows my mind. Be careful in cleaning your barrel, take care of it, and you will have MUCH fun with it!

Take care,

Greg

Edit: If there was by any chance a paper shim between the barrel and the fore end, put it back just as you found it. Mine had one. Whoever owned these rifle before likely unlocked all the accuracy secrets.

Also, try to put the torque back the same as you found it on the fore end. If it's too tight it can mess with accuracy, believe it or not.

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Old 06-05-2021, 09:26 PM
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Thanks for the replies so far, very interesting. Got the Martini ready for shooting Monday, took the pistol scope off and put a vintage Redfield 6x18 scope on it for shooting at 50 and may do 100 also. Goal is 1/4” at 50.

After I put the scope on it the forend was removed to see if any date was on it. There was the number 972 and 3/25/50. I was born 1/15/51, that’s close. On the lever was 011. Any idea what the 972 is? Fallingblock, help!

Also got an Uncle Al book and 2 catalogs from 1957 and catalog no. 47. Thanks to 17acklyb, Randy contacted me when I asked if anyone had a copy of the book for sale.

Gonna turn this gun into a bucket list item, always wanted a gun of some sort with a long vintage scope on it. Saved the contact for the company that makes scope blocks and don’t know what height it’s a super target spot I believe 15x. Any help would be appreciated. I assume the holes drilled in the barrel from Freeland have the correct spacing for the screws to mount the blocks. What size screw?? The company is email only, the phone number is for orders. Larry
Go over to RimFire Central and ask the guys on the Martini Forum what blocks you need.

Your Lyman should have the power either on the ring forward of the eyepiece or on the eyepiece. That is where they are on mine.
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Old 06-07-2021, 08:22 PM
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Took the Martini to the club and shot at 25 yards. The picture shows the results. Need to establish a technique for shooting small groups. The vintage 6x18 Redfield scope was blurry and couldn’t get it to focus. I could see the crosshairs move as my heart was beating. The shooting benches were solid in the ground. I had a few 1/4” groups with SK Standard and CCI std vel. Shooting 1/4” at 50 yds will be a challenge.
Gonna try to purchase blocks for the Lyman target spot and try again. Will spend time reading in the bench shooting section also. Larry
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Old 06-08-2021, 05:36 PM
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Hi Larry.

I noticed you saw you shot at 25 yards. Is it possible your scope won't focus as close as 25 yards? Thus the inability to get a clear sight picture?

Have you set the crosshairs to your eye yet by looking through the scope at the sky and adjusting the rear eyepiece first? Then the focus on the target?

I usually don't shoot outdoors as close as 25 yards outdoors except to make sure I am on target. Usually 50 yards minimum. (Rifle)

Jeff
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Old 06-08-2021, 07:47 PM
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Hi Jeff, this is the first time I shot the gun outdoors. I was just playing, sighting in, getting some idea on how to use the bag & rest and figured I would shoot groups at 25 first. My goal is 1/4” at 50 yds. You just brought to my attention on why it wouldn’t focus, thanks. Larry
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I just found two more barrels sold to Freeland in 1962 and they are blanks only at $50.00 each. So the total to Freeland now stands at 106. Barrel 972 is very interesting.
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Laurie
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Old 06-12-2021, 09:07 AM
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I just found two more barrels sold to Freeland in 1962 and they are blanks only at $50.00 each. So the total to Freeland now stands at 106. Barrel 972 is very interesting.
Cheers,
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Please expound on why barrel 972 is so interesting.
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Old 06-12-2021, 10:54 PM
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Because of who it was made for.
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Old 06-12-2021, 11:06 PM
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Because of who it was made for.
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