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Old 10-26-2019, 10:18 PM
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My new CZ 457 Trainer



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Over on the 1911 Forum, I have this thread on my new CZ 457 Trainer. I traded even up for it, with some guns I didn't want any more.

I got the trigger pull down to 1.0#, using a 10/22 trigger return spring. About 300ish rounds through the pipe by now.

Seems to shoot OK. Here's a 5-shot group at 25 yards off a bipod and rear bag, with 9X on the scope. OTO .25", C2C .03". The second group of Wolf through the gun, besides a few rounds for sighting in the scope, and one other group that gave a .05" for four of five shots. Plus another target using SK Pistol Match Special.
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Old 10-26-2019, 10:32 PM
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Congrats on the new rifle . Looks like a keeper !
Iíve just placed an order for a 457 Lux , the only difference between the Training rifle and the Lux is the stock material. I would have ordered a Trainer if they had been in stock at the place I ordered.
How about a picture of the rifle ?
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Old 10-26-2019, 11:21 PM
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Congrats on the new rifle . Looks like a keeper !
I’ve just placed an order for a 457 Lux , the only difference between the Training rifle and the Lux is the stock material. I would have ordered a Trainer if they had been in stock at the place I ordered.
How about a picture of the rifle ?
I can take one tmw, when I have better daylight lighting conditions.

I specifically didn't want a Lux so that I wouldn't be paranoid about getting dings in the stock.

So now My Gigantic First-World Problem is whether to buy a Varmint of some flavor, or just buy more Wolf ammo!
(Of course the answer is that these choices are not mutually exclusive.....)

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Some pix. CZ does a good job with beechwood and walnut stain, for sure.

A 1980 M1969 Romanian trainer in background.
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That's a really nice looking Trainer, gonna be a good shooter too............
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That's a really nice looking Trainer, gonna be a good shooter too............
Thanks, it's doing OK for now. I have a thread on it in the Military Trainers subforum.

Edit: assumed you meant the M1969. The 457 has already met my fondest hopes.

So now of course I have to go get a Varmint.....

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That looks like walnut to me . Nice !
Is there no checkering on the 457 Trainer ?
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That looks like walnut to me . Nice !
Is there no checkering on the 457 Trainer ?
Beechwood (with a very nice walnut stain) instead of walnut, and no checkering, are the only differences between the Trainer and the Lux.
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Beechwood (with a very nice walnut stain) instead of walnut, and no checkering, are the only differences between the Trainer and the Lux.
Is the stock pillar bedded ?
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Is the stock pillar bedded ?
No. I just take 'em out of the box and shoot 'em as is, except for adjusting the trigger pull weight.
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Thanks, it's doing OK for now. I have a thread on it in the Military Trainers subforum.

Edit: assumed you meant the M1969. The 457 has already met my fondest hopes.

So now of course I have to go get a Varmint.....
No, the compliment is for the 457 trainer..........
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Had a few guys at work shoot the 457 with me. All are 5-shot groups at 25 yards; bipod, rear bag and 9X scope. Measurements are C2C (OTO - .22").

First I shot 5 rounds of CCI Mini Mag 36gr HP, which is what I let some other guys (regular customers) shoot it with, so the barrel was seasoned for it. Not bad at all for reliable mid-grade stuff.

Then I shot 5 rounds at the Shoot'n'see in pic 2 to start seasoning the barrel for Wolf. After that are groups 1 - 5.
Group 1, still seasoning. Group 2, coming along.
Can't explain the low shot in group 3. I think it was the ammo though.
Group 4--4 shots were .22" OTO, so .00" C2C.
Group 5, now we're talking.

Then Rich (our training director) shot--he shoots a lot--and after that, Wade (the range manager) shot. He gets in a lot less shooting. Obviously.
Rich raved about the 1# trigger. When I got home, I tried pulling the 2# trigger on my Savage Mk I FVT. Big difference! My 10/22 BX trigger with Brimstone Tier 2 kit is a sweet 1.5#.

Shooting the Savage tmw with Wolf to see how it does. If I keep the Savage instead of trading it in for a 457 ProVarmint, the pull weight has to come down to 1.0 - 1.5#.
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No. I just take 'em out of the box and shoot 'em as is, except for adjusting the trigger pull weight.
I was asking if the stock came from the factory with pillars ?
It was my understanding that was one of the upgrades for a 457 and thought it was on all models .
If the Lux I ordered doesnít have pillars , I will be disappointed. Itíll be no better than my 455ís and maybe not as good as my 452ís .
The new open inletting on the 455 is one of its issues IMO . Keeps one from tightening the action screws without bending the trigger guard .
Oh well , Iíll find out this Saturday. I got tracking on my rifle . Itíll be delivered tomorrow.
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I was asking if the stock came from the factory with pillars ?
It was my understanding that was one of the upgrades for a 457 and thought it was on all models .
If the Lux I ordered doesnít have pillars , I will be disappointed. Itíll be no better than my 455ís and maybe not as good as my 452ís .
The new open inletting on the 455 is one of its issues IMO . Keeps one from tightening the action screws without bending the trigger guard .
Oh well , Iíll find out this Saturday. I got tracking on my rifle . Itíll be delivered tomorrow.
Sorry, misunderstood you. I'm new to the CZ world, and don't know if any CZs come stock pillar-bedded. Maybe the MTR. More knowledgeable CZ guys can chime in here.

But does any of this really matter all that much? Look how my "bottom-of-the-CZ-barrel" one shoots.

From what research I have done before buying my Trainer, it appears to me that the 457 line is the best CZ has ever produced. Not talking individual barrel properties here; more about the 11mm dovetails, fully adjustable trigger, other refinements.
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No. I just take 'em out of the box and shoot 'em as is, except for adjusting the trigger pull weight.
I was asking if the stock came from the factory with pillars ?
It was my understanding that was one of the upgrades for a 457 and thought it was on all models .
If the Lux I ordered doesn’t have pillars , I will be disappointed. It’ll be no better than my 455’s and maybe not as good as my 452’s .
The new open inletting on the 455 is one of its issues IMO . Keeps one from tightening the action screws without bending the trigger guard .
Oh well , I’ll find out this Saturday. I got tracking on my rifle . It’ll be delivered tomorrow.
I have a 457 LUX and it does have factory pillars. You will be fine, no worries.
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