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Old 08-15-2005, 03:23 PM
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No, as i mentioned it dropped in place. The Winchester Subsonic uses the same Power Point projectile, good sized hollow point. Im hoping during the spring to experiment with CCI Subs as the HP in those is excellent as well.

I dont find this surprising though because we often see the same thing happen at 150m where the rabbits drop instantly vs. 30-50m shots were they often run off except for head shots of course
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:28 PM
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Interesting

Never heard of Winchester subs. I've tried Moderators, which jammed (did not cycle) every single round in my suppressed MKII.

Now I stick with the Rem. Subs.

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Old 08-15-2005, 03:34 PM
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..... I would have said the same thing about RemSubs, dirty, and not very reliable....still as we all know you need to find ammunition that your rifle likes. I have a lightened bolt to make sure it cycles .... so the rifle is only shot using subsonic ammunition.

Moderators are PMC are they not?? Have not used them for years but remember them to be dirty as well.
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:37 PM
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Are these Winchester Subs supposed to be the best of the best in terms of sub. .22lr's go? Thanks!

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'The Best' ?? hmmmmmmm, wouldn't say that.

Do they have a good sized HP, yes

Do they group well, yes, although we had to test three different batches before we came across the current one.

Are they reliable, yes, in the rifles i have used and almost all of them have lightened bolts and Tubbs operating springs, some are even Robar coated.

A friend told me that the lead for the projectiles is stored deep under ground for awhile to 'cure' it or something, and i believe most WinSUb is manufactured in Australia.

Perhaps one of the Aussie members on the board could clarify that??
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Old 08-15-2005, 03:45 PM
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Where can I find these win. subs?

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Old 08-15-2005, 04:48 PM
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I'm not sure where you can find them in the States , sorry

Edit: Have you tried CCI subs ?? Should be easy to find in the States anyway

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Old 08-15-2005, 06:37 PM
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Back to Pictures!

Well , now that the great debate is over!
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:26 PM
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AWESOME, I think the Barracuda's are the crem de la crem of 10/22 stocks!!!

Again, can you give us the specs of your 10/22 package? Thanks!

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Sure--Info

10/22 action
Kid trig and bolt
cuda stock
VC carbon brl
VC adaptor
SoundTech Can
To many George Washingtons
Lupy 4x12x40
Vc Base
cheap rings
TO MANY GEORGE WASHINGTONS!

Results= after 5, 5shot groups with Master L an ave of .221 at 50 yards.
The cuda is fun on the bench but I like a more conventional stock for hunting.
Thanks for the asking, always gald to share info, I have gotten so much from this site, I want to give back all I can.
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:41 PM
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How much did the scope run ya?

Also, do you have any other pieces threaded for that can? If not, get some, after all the work and waiting, we deserve to have more than one toy to play with.

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Old 08-15-2005, 09:49 PM
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4x12 Lupy

I think the scope was around $369.00.
OH, yea I use the can on several other toys.
P-22
S&W 2206
Another 10/22
S&W 41

Cans are a blast, I recomend getting one that will last. I have seen tham not take the Timex Test. That is why I use SoundTech.

I also have a MK II with 9" brl. Done by SoundTech also. I am putting one together for my AR-15 now.

How about you, any cans in your life?
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Old 08-15-2005, 09:57 PM
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You have one of the smiths?? nice!! I've been really attracted to them...and the smaller version but since they don't make them any more it would be like pulling teeth to get parts and addapters.

Yup I've got a GemTech OutBackII. I have it on a threaded Ruger MKII stainless with shortened barrel (only enough to accomodate front site). So barrel is abou an inch or an inch and a half long. Then I slapped a set of CTC laser grips on it and filled it with remington subs. The most fun I've had with my clothes on in quite a while....my gf says the same when we're at the range

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Old 08-16-2005, 12:49 AM
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EMT where's your pic?

Here's a couple:

A Freedom CAN (Revelation Arms) on an Evolution 10/22


A SoundTech Millenium on an ultimate - part one


A SoundTech Millenium on an ultimate - part two
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Old 08-16-2005, 01:22 AM
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That first settup is purely psychotic!...I mean sick!

How do you use the red dot, plus the scope, plus the light, plus the laser, shall I go on???

Do I dare ask for an aftermarket parts list...

If I liked folding/telescopic stocks better, I'd love ot build myself a duplicate of that piece!!!

Oh and as far as my pics...I've got one of the suppressed MKII, but that doesn't count for this thread

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