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Old 12-12-2002, 10:45 AM
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I asked them, at their website, about the .22WMR Dyna Points.

I just got their 2003 Product Guide in the mail.

"NEW!"------ .22 Win. Mag. Dyna Point

Bullet type ==== Dyna Point (DP) plated
Symbol ======= USA22M
Bullet weight=== 45gr
Rnd/box ====== 50
Velocity muzzle = 1550 .........100yds == 1147
Energy muzzle == 240 ..........100yds == 131

No MSRP listed.

Well, there it is. I'll have to keep an eye out for 'em and give them a try.

It looks like a "watered down" load like our "down-under" friends said. Even the Federal 50gr JHP is faster @1650 fps.
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Old 12-12-2002, 04:26 PM
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45 grain..

Interesting, too bad they couln't slap some more @ss behind it. I'm still a little unclear about the whole dyna-point thing, and would think they should produce something like the Rem. psp rounds instead. But still Winchester ammo is very accurate, maybe this round deserves a shot, so to say.
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Old 12-12-2002, 10:51 PM
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I wonder what the trajectory of that round is? If they would tell us the BC we could figure it out and plot the graph to see if it's any better than some of the other .22 magnum fodder.
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Old 12-12-2002, 11:54 PM
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glad to see you guys are gettin a new economy round, allthough i think ours is a little better a 40grainer at 1920.. probly packs a little more punch, yours would be sweet at about 1800 rather than 1500... hmm oh well.. sure theres a practical reason they have selected that velocity, maybe its super acurate and blows up like hand granages on impact ... ehhe u can only hope!
cheers! Paul... Australia... lover of the 22mag powerpoint!
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Old 12-13-2002, 08:35 AM
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Mike G.,

The product guide did mention a "Mid Range Traj." (100 yds) == 2.6

Win "Supreme" == 1.4
Win "others" ==== 1.7

It'll be interesting to see how much they're gonna cost.

[edited to add:]

The guide has a "side view" pic of it..... hard to tell what the tip looks like and how deep the "hollow" is.

If the .22LR "DynaPoint" is any indication, it might be just barely a "dimple".

You can tell that it's "plated" and not jacketed.

Oh well, we shall see, what we shall see.

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Old 12-22-2002, 01:34 AM
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Chief says : good goin Ski. gettin olle uncle Winnie to give
up prize information.

YEE ! UGGH at mv @1650 fps - thats stinger 22 Lr velocity.

I cranked up the CCI bal. chart . CCI (TNT) MV @2200 fps
drops to 1650 fps at 125 yard line

I know Dyna Point isnt "Hyper Vel ammo" just slow !

thanks for the tip = will wait with ya.
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Old 12-22-2002, 11:07 AM
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I found out that the Dynapoint bullet is not the same as the Powerpoint bullet. For a long time I thought it was. The powerpoint has a much deeper cavity.
Course we'll get all psyched up about the new round only to find it wont shoot worth a %%%% in our rifle Or be only as accurate as the Winchester Expediters were. They were the most explosive .22lr round ever made. Just were'nt accurate past 40yds. I still have a brick of them I'm saving for a sage rat hunt in a field that hasn't been hunted for a long time so the ranges will be close.
It'll be interesting to see when they come out with a heavier bullet for the Hummer. Should drop it down to .22WMR velocities.
Then there is always the hope that someone will load a bunch of Lil-Gun behind a 30-35 gr. bullet and see what happenes.
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Old 12-23-2002, 04:08 PM
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Sound's as if this new load my be best suited for plinking. Hopefully it will be very inexpensive say 5.00 per box or less
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Old 01-20-2003, 04:31 AM
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Sounds like the perfect load for small game hunting. Normal higher velocity mag ammo is too destructive for small game and tears up a lot of meat.
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Old 01-20-2003, 10:16 AM
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apollo,

You could be right.

What we need is a "hunter" to try all these different loads and give 'em a "POOF" factor rating.

"Edible" vs. "Blow 'em up!" type of thing.

I was always more interested in the "paper punching" side of it.
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Old 01-20-2003, 01:22 PM
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My "POOF" factor award goes to-

Drum roll please

------CCI TNT's------

For when it absolutely positively must be destroyed on impact.

If you are going to eat don't shoot it with a TNT well unless you take a head shot that is
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Old 01-20-2003, 06:39 PM
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Good start!

"POOF FACTOR" On a scale of 1 - 10

The higher the "factor" the more "shot placement" to avoid excessive meat damage is required.

CCI "TNT" ======= 10
Rem. "Premiers" === 9
Win. "Supremes" == 8.5



This post will be continually "edited" as more information becomes available.
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Old 01-20-2003, 08:35 PM
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CHIEF SAYS : Ya know my answer , already ..!

CCI Maxi Mag +V (TNT)

The meanest , fastest, most destructive 22 magnum ammo
ever made = nothin compares to the "POOF " (LAUGH) factor.

I rate it a strong 10 + (PLUS)
more "feathers" "blood" "fur" ?
Its more fun " than hittin a possum with a semi "

BWAHahhhaajj! oh ! tears to my eyes, ROFLAO. x2
works well on electronics,mechanical items = too

UGGH BWAHahahaha ! cry,laugh,cry,laugh - must shoot somethin
SOON .
CHIEFDAVE
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Old 01-20-2003, 08:44 PM
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My old stand-by is the Winchester Supremes.

I'd give them a POOF Factor of about 8.5 compared to the TNTs. Definitely a wonderful hunting round!!!

Also, the most accurate in my Marlin 882SSV and my Volquartsen .22WMR.
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Old 01-20-2003, 09:19 PM
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TNT's without a doubt go...

Boom - Thwack - Poof - Ugh! - Oh man, disgusting!

All in that order.

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